12 boys lost in flooded Thai cave

[Dan]

Thai cave rescue: eight boys now freed as mission to save others continues – live

“It is believed the rescue operation has been suspended for today. The Facebook update from the Thai navy seals suggests it is sticking to a plan of rescuing four boys per day.

It said “Two days, Eight boars” referring to the name of the boys football team Wild Boars.”

The strategy works well. Why not?

 

[Dan]

Does it matter whether oxygen or air in this case?

 

[The Chairman]

I am sure that they are all trained and won't need to be rescued or they wouldn't be there,

Don't be so sure.

 

[KathyV]

Don't be so sure.

Good point! Sadly one of the rescuers has already died.

 

[The Chairman]

Good point! Sadly one of the rescuers has already died.

Hubris nor ignorance are good replacements for training or experience. I don't doubt the skills or bravado of the Seals, but I doubt that anyone of them has cave training. As much as I appreciate their desire to help, I wouldn't ask them to perform brain surgery for the reason: insufficient training. I'm hoping that the cavers on site have gotten enough through to them on how to not die. Kudos to Stanton and crew for keeping the death toll as low as possible.

 

[pedo]

Heard lots of talk about the dimentions of the passage openings and it has been mentioned that the water is not very deep but how long are underwater sections?

 

[chillyinCanada]

Hard to argue with 8 saved boys! They're definitely doing something right!

 

[Dan]

Hubris nor ignorance are good replacements for training or experience. I don't doubt the skills or bravado of the Seals, but I doubt that anyone of them has cave training. As much as I appreciate their desire to help, I wouldn't ask them to perform brain surgery for the reason: insufficient training. I'm hoping that the cavers on site have gotten enough through to them on how to not die. Kudos to Stanton and crew for keeping the death toll as low as possible.

I wonder about the late Samarn Poonan, being a non cave diver, bending the rule of third in cave diving too far to the point of OOA without being able to alert his buddy in the sump?

 

[boulderjohn]

I wonder about the late Samarn Poonan, being a non cave diver, bending the rule of third in cave diving too far to the point of OOA without being able to alert his buddy in the sump?

I have not seen any firm confirmation that he went OOA. Some news reports said he did. Others said he passed out, which suggests he suffered a medical event unrelated to his gas supply.

 

[Divegoose]

Does it matter whether oxygen or air in this case?

Nope - all that matters is the boys and rescuers get out safely.

Divegoose