BP/W for me and my son?

[beaverdivers]

Worse - Case Scenario! What would you do?

Originally Posted by cool_hardware52


If we focus on al 80's and 3mm suits then a SS plate starts to look reasonable. 3mm suit is ~+4 and and an empty al 80 is ~+4 4+4=8 and a SS plate, harness, and regulator is about -8. It's very common for divers in 3mm suits with al 80's to dive using nothing but their plate, harness and reg for ballast.


What happens if the diver at the beginning of the dive has an inflator or wing or reg failure at 100+ ' ? For fun, let's add a down current. What would you do?​

 

[RJP]

What happens if the diver at the beginning of the dive has an inflator or wing or reg failure at 100+ ' ? For fun, let's add a down current. What would you do?​

Hasn't this been asked and answered already? Not sure whether this thread or another.

1. Inflator failure is not a problem; orally inflate
2. Wing failure is not a problem; an AL80 and full 3mm suit should be very easy for anyone. If it is not, they shouldn't be diving that rig or should have redundant buoyancy with them.
3. Reg failure... what kind of failure? Suddenly stops delivering air altogether? That's a problem irrespective of your BC choice. Where's your buddy? If solo, where's your redundant air?
4. Down-current... ride it out and re-establish buoyancy while swimming out of it

Unless you're asking what happens if all four things happen at the same time, in which case... "when your number's up, your number's up."

 

[Neilwood]

Hasn't this been asked and answered already? Not sure whether this thread or another.

1.) Inflator failure is not a problem; orally inflate
2.) Wing failure is not a problem; an AL80 and full 3mm suit should be very easy for anyone
3.) Reg failure... what kind of failure? Where's your buddy? If solo, where's you redundant air?
4.) Down-current... ride it out and re-establish buoyancy while swimming out of it

Unless you're asking what happens if all four things happen at the same time, in which case... "when your number's up, your number's up."

If all those happen at the same time then you are either the unluckiest person that had ever lived (to have 3 simultaneous equipment failures while in a dangerous current) or are guilty of your own demise (for having poorly maintained/serviced gear)

 

[tbone1004]

Worse - Case Scenario! What would you do?

Originally Posted by cool_hardware52


If we focus on al 80's and 3mm suits then a SS plate starts to look reasonable. 3mm suit is ~+4 and and an empty al 80 is ~+4 4+4=8 and a SS plate, harness, and regulator is about -8. It's very common for divers in 3mm suits with al 80's to dive using nothing but their plate, harness and reg for ballast.


What happens if the diver at the beginning of the dive has an inflator or wing or reg failure at 100+ ' ? For fun, let's add a down current. What would you do?​

did you not see the black where he said there is no wing to fail? AL80's only have like 6lbs of gas in them and if you're diving fairly shallow with a thin suit you won't lose much to compression so you can dive like that without a wing

 

[bryanmc57]

did you not see the black where he said there is no wing to fail?

I don't think Tobin was saying there was no wing, he was only listing things used as ballast.

I agree with Ray, all four things happening at once it may just be that your time is up.

*maybe we could add a school of great whites as well, just for the majority of people who can swim up 10 pounds.

 

[PfcAJ]

Worse - Case Scenario! What would you do?

Originally Posted by cool_hardware52


If we focus on al 80's and 3mm suits then a SS plate starts to look reasonable. 3mm suit is ~+4 and and an empty al 80 is ~+4 4+4=8 and a SS plate, harness, and regulator is about -8. It's very common for divers in 3mm suits with al 80's to dive using nothing but their plate, harness and reg for ballast.


What happens if the diver at the beginning of the dive has an inflator or wing or reg failure at 100+ ' ? For fun, let's add a down current. What would you do?​

Move those flippers and head to the big air tank in the sky.

 

[RJP]

Move those flippers and head to the big air tank in the sky.

Sunshine and seagulls, baby!

 

[tbone1004]

I don't think Tobin was saying there was no wing, he was only listing things used as ballast.

I agree with Ray, all four things happening at once it may just be that your time is up.

*maybe we could add a school of great whites as well, just for the majority of people who can swim up 10 pounds.

what makes you say that? Go look at a lot of the vintage guys, if you're diving a single lp72 or an al80 with a thin suit there is really no reason for a wing....

 

[rhwestfall]

anyone remember the USD Al72 "Z-bottles" (aka - cork bottle 72's)?????

 

[dmaziuk]

Pop quiz, hot shot:

the diver at the beginning of the dive has an inflator or wing or reg failure at 100+ ' ? For fun, let's add a down current.

if he drops below 50 he blows up. What do you do? What do you do?