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computer dependent divers...

Discussion in 'Basic Scuba' started by Jason B, Sep 14, 2004.

  1. FreeFloat

    FreeFloat Solo Diver

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    That's pretty much what I do, too..... Glad to see we're on the same page, regardless of what tools we used to get there.
     
  2. Jason B

    Jason B Loggerhead Turtle

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    I'm making one last post here, then I'm hoping to let this thread die a quick death.

    First, I'm not knocking computers. I love my apple, and I teach programming PLC's so I'm all for technology. I'm even looking at getting a dive computer. I wish I had picked a different title for the thread...makes it look like I feel all computer divers are bone heads. Not the case at all. I didn't mean "dependent" like they couldn't dive without one, but "dependent" on it to tell them something they just did 2 minutes ago. Let me also add that I usually log my dives when I surface... I surely don't expect anyone to have to memorize all their daily times and depths until the end of the day, that really was not the point. These divers had just exited the water and didn't have a clue what depth they had achieved. Just seemed odd to me. Then they all had computers so I just wondered if that had any bearing on it. You have all proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that all computer divers are not oblivious to their depth and times. Again, I wasn't trying to generalize computer users as "bad divers". Wasn't my real point at all...the title screams differently I know, but it wasn't my point. I do not feel that an analog depth gauge ranks me superior to anyone, and I don't think analog is better than digital for diving.
    I still don't like digital delay. Analog wins there!:)

    Sincerely,
    Jason
     
  3. bug

    bug Divemaster

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    I know you said you wanted this thread to end. But in the sense of the being dependant on technology. I dive completely digital: depth, time, and hoseless air intergration.

    So yes I do have a lot going on this computer that is strapped to my wrist and the transmitter on my 1st stage. However, as a recreational diver is told, any malfunction and the dive is over. And like stated earlier, at any point in time I could tell you my max depth, current depth, air, NDL within reasonably safe accuracy. If I ever had to abort a dive because any one part of this failed I would know that I would be able to grab my buddy, safely ascend, and make a safety stop. I just know not to push it to the limit and I think that most people think that way.
     
  4. Wijbrandus

    Wijbrandus Manta Ray

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    I just use a bottom timer and tables. My air doesn't last long enough for a computer to be worth having.

    I don't understand why someone would spend all that money on a dive computer when a stopwatch and a depth gauge will do the same thing. I do see the advantage if every minute of NDL time counts because you can make a tank last you three hours underwater, but hey, I'm not anywhere near there yet.

    Not to mention, I repair computers for a living. I know how often they like to either fail completely or simply scramble your data. I'm not sure I'd want to rely on one like that.

    Hey, I'm just a rookie diver. What do I know anyway.
     
  5. JustJoe

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    Hey Robert,

    First thing I use a computer for is to record my dives. I have never logged dives before and this is an easy way to do it. I know that I am lazy and can easily do this.

    I also dive with a backup bt, depth gauge and have always used an analog pressure gauge.

    Joe
     
  6. Wijbrandus

    Wijbrandus Manta Ray

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    That's a good point. I'll admit, having a downloadable profile of your dive must be pretty nice. I can see where that would be handy.

    It is kind of a pain to pull out a log book on the boat and sit there filling out the charts. On the other hand, filling in the details gives my wife and I a way of re-experiencing the dive.

    I do think the downloading of your profile is cool though.
     
  7. JustJoe

    JustJoe Barracuda

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    I do add my notes to my dive after I download them. It is kinda crazy but now I do write up my dive, after I download it. I would never have done that without the computer. And I get to relive it all over again.

    Joe

    ps> maybe I should also say tthat my computer backs up my gauges
     
  8. beachdivequeenbelam

    beachdivequeenbelam Solo Diver

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    my computer works as a gauge, on air, and nitrox.
     
  9. Train32

    Train32 Guest

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    I agree. I enjoy ShakaZulu's avatars as well and I drive a Ford.
     
  10. kmac

    kmac Solo Diver

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    I can completely agree with you about that trend... it IS there... A lot of divers are more than happy to let a stack of silicon chips do the brainwork. Not all divers, but I see enough of them screw up that it makes me really wonder if some people shouldn't have "special" classes before they can buy one... ---> IMHO

    But, maybe its from using Microsoft products for so long but I have absolutely NO faith in any type of computer! I kept looking down and expecting to see the blue screen of death "Fatal Error" notice...

    I had one, actually just sold it a few weeks ago... bought it 4 years ago and it had 3 dives on it and it hadn't been out of its case in over 2 years! My problem was I never trusted it, I was always checking it against real gauges like my P.T. bottom timer I've had since the 80's... (Hey... That was technology in its day! :wink: )

    Maybe in a couple years I'll try going high tech again... Just won't hold my breath...

    :crush:
     

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