Disadvantages of DIR ?

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jjsteffen:
Nova, are you still here? Just in time for your second comeuppance, this time from Dan. Hell, in all the days of posting, you could have taken the class and received the lessons first hand in lieu of your diatribes within.

I can't beleave that the last two posting divers did not get the " DIR is like pornography" and the obvious joke about "one handed divers" you can't be so dense that I have to explain this to you! I will be glad to take another class if you get a sense of humor!! The day I need you to tell me how to clip a peace of gear off without shining my light in someones face is the day Hell will freeze over. maybe I should get thicker underware,(joke again so don't respond) Please get off your holier than thow attitude. My second comeuppance? WTF
 
CincyBengalsFan:
Can a disabled diver get certified thru DIR? If not then this is a disadvantage for the disabled. Discrimination too, kind of like the no smoking rule. Heck I don't even smoke.

#450 and counting

It's not discrimination to exclude a person from participating in a class if the person is not capable of performing the essential functions needed to pass the course.

If they are capable of performing the skills, then there's no issue since there would be not be excluded. They would be evaluated the same as any other student.

Of course, this assumes that GUE classes are even subject to the provisions of the ADA or the state law cognates, which they probably aren't.

As for the smoking issue, smokers are not a protected class that fall within the scope of any anti-discrimination law anywhere in the country. GUE can take whatever position they wish on this issue with no fear of reprisal whatsoever.

It constantly amazes me that people get this wrapped around the axle over DIR. It's a system that appeals to many people, but not to everyone. That's fine because it's not intended to appeal to everyone. It's designed for people who accept GUE's methods.

The guy I take GUE classes from believes in the system and has relied upon it to execute some serious dives (WKPP and Britannic, for example). However, I believe him when he states that he is not trying to force anyone to dive a particular way. Instead, he offers advise and teaches courses to people who have asked him to do so.

Personally, I'd rather evaluate a dive buddy based upon their skills, attitude, equipment and personality than upon the number of GUE courses they've taken. I'd be more likely to perform a challenging dive with a GUE diver simply because our training would be similar. However, I'd rather dive with someone I trust who has never taken a GUE course than with a Tech II diver with an attitude problem and a history of issues.
 
MASS-Diver:
THIS IS NOT A TECH Board - as far as I know we can talk about recreactional DIR diving here???????

REC DIR, didn't even know that existed, must be a new brand of quasi DIR rebels who fromed a new group. I thought DIR by definition makes it a TECH group..........
 
ShakaZulu:
REC DIR, didn't even know that existed, must be a new brand of quasi DIR rebels who fromed a new group. I thought DIR by definition makes it a TECH group..........

Not even close. DIR-F and Rec Triox are both recreational courses by definition and involve no mandatory decompression or overhead.
 
I believe the answer is , yes. Talk to Mike Kane about the one arm diver at Gilboa they said could do the Fundamentals class. He wasn't in the class but he did work with AG on airshares afterwards.

CincyBengalsFan:
Can a disabled diver get certified thru DIR? If not then this is a disadvantage for the disabled. Discrimination too, kind of like the no smoking rule. Heck I don't even smoke.

#450 and counting
 
Dude, Relax. Apparently the emoticons went over your head.

Oh, I remember. You are hear to save all divers from the DIR lemmings :lol2:

novadiver:
I can't beleave that the last two posting divers did not get the " DIR is like pornography" and the obvious joke about "one handed divers" you can't be so dense that I have to explain this to you! I will be glad to take another class if you get a sense of humor!! The day I need you to tell me how to clip a peace of gear off without shining my light in someones face is the day Hell will freeze over. maybe I should get thicker underware,(joke again so don't respond) Please get off your holier than thow attitude. My second comeuppance? WTF
 
MASS-Diver:
THIS IS NOT A TECH Board - as far as I know we can talk about recreactional DIR diving here???????
Tech DIR differs from Recreational DIR only in:

Depth.
Runtime.
Decompression obligation.
Gas mixture used.
Amount of gas carried (and presence or lack of a redundant 1st stage).

None of the basic skills or team procedures change.
 
Northeastwrecks:
It's not discrimination to exclude a person from participating in a class if the person is not capable of performing the essential functions needed to pass the course.
CBF thinks that the DMV is guilty of discrimination because they won't let a blind person have a driver's license. After all, they DO have braille instructions on the drive-up ATM.
 
Dan Gibson:
I believe the answer is , yes. Talk to Mike Kane about the one arm diver at Gilboa they said could do the Fundamentals class. He wasn't in the class but he did work with AG on airshares afterwards.

I thought I hear that they didn't let him do the class?
 
Dan Gibson:
Dude, Relax. Apparently the emoticons went over your head.

Oh, I remember. You are hear to save all divers from the DIR lemmings :lol2:

Emoticons?Did you mean emotions or do you use the keyboard with one hand also?I hope your Gue cert opens doors for you. Behind those doors I'm sure you'll find cleaning supplies!! Now I do feel relaxed. If you were the very best diver around, I would still dive solo just so I would'nt have to listen to the load of @#$! that spews from your yap.LOL3

Who calls someone DUDE?please grow up.:)
 
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