What makes drowning (seem) far from peacefull is the fear of dying, not the fact that you are dying, I think.
Somoene mentioned that drowning could be very similar to suffocating. If so, Id say its not really bad at all, as long as you dont let yourself freak out..
Both through my different jobs and through my MMA training I have suffocated and been blood choked many times. Losing the blood flow to your brain is faster, but none of them are particulary painfull at all.. Choking takes a while as you need to use the o2 you already have inhaled before you pass out.
Blood chokes make you unconcious near instantly if they are well performed and can kill you in as little as 10 seconds and SHOULD NOT BE TRIED AT HOME! (or at the bar or anywhere else)
Hi, I saw a comment you left on a thread a while back ago:
Drowning: A peaceful way to go?
that one and I wanted to ask:
You said:
"What makes drowning (seem) far from peacefull is the fear of dying, not the fact that you are dying, I think.
Somoene mentioned that drowning could be very similar to suffocating. If so, Id say its not really bad at all, as long as you dont let yourself freak out..
Both through my different jobs and through my MMA training I have suffocated and been blood choked many times. Losing the blood flow to your brain is faster, but none of them are particulary painfull at all.. Choking takes a while as you need to use the o2 you already have inhaled before you pass out.
Blood chokes make you unconcious near instantly if they are well performed and can kill you in as little as 10 seconds and SHOULD NOT BE TRIED AT HOME! (or at the bar or anywhere else)"
And this has me deeply disturbed. How can you possibly say that drowning, and suffocating only SEEMS far from peaceful, and is not a horrible way to die? You said it's from fear of dying, and not from the fact that you are dying. But I don't think it's etiher. If someone set you on fire, would that not be a horrible way to go even if you didn't fear dying? Most people who survive suffocation, especially domestic abuse by partners who strangle them have PTSD, and Trauma for the rest of their life.
The fact that you say that suffocation is not really bad at all as long as you don't let yourself freak out shows you know nothing about Biology, and Science. Every single human being who is suffocating will be forced against their will to freak out because of the fact that the brain will go into fight, or flight mode from animal instincts, and it is rooted in a primal, primordial fear. Suffocation is one of the worst indescribable types of pain, and panic, and fear, and sheer utter horror, and terror that you can never imagine.
There is no such thing as ANY human being who can just let themselves suffocate with no fear, or panic whatsoever. EVERY one of them will freak out whether they want to, or not, and they will have NO control over it, or their reactions, whatsoever. None of us do.
If what you say is true than why is Water Boarding people considered torture, and being shut down? Why are so many people against it?
Why is animal protection people saying that drowning animals as a way of putting them down is cruel, and inhumane? If it's not bad, scary, or painful what is so bad about that method of euthanasia? Anyone who used it on an animal would be labled an evil monster with no feelings for anyone else, or regard for animal life, and dignity, and rightfully so.
Why would it be inhumane to euthanise a human patient via drowning or suffocation who wants to die? If it's not bad, scary, or painful then why don't humans choose that option of euthanasia, and who do no rights to die companies use it? Anyone who used it on a human would be labled an evil monster with no feelings for anyone else, or regard for human life, and dignity, and rightfully so.
I have had astham my whole entire life, and I KNOW what it's like to not be able to breathe, and be scared all the time. I have to fight for my air on a day to day basis. Suffocation is therefore a HUGE phobia of mine, and my most feared ways of dying ever. I guess all my pain, suffering, and panic is just all in my head, huh? I guess that I'm not actually in fear, gasping for air, and in pain from my lungs burning, and I don't have air hunger?
I guess all the scientists, and doctors who document Air-Hunger, and how horrible suffocation actually is are all wrong then?
It''s not from being afraid to die either, because I will choose death over pain. If I had the choice of being killed painlessly right now, or being suffocated with a plastic bag until I pass out, but I survive, I would choose the painless death just so I wouldn't have to experience the horribleness of suffocation.
I would rather burn alive to death rather than be drowned, suffocated, smothered, or choked/strangled.
Why don't you try doing some REAL reseacrh on what suffocation is like before running your insensitive mouth. Until you know first hand what it's like, you have no place to talk.
What you said is very extremely offensive, and insultive, and a direct attack to my daily struggles. It's rude, and insensitive to all suffocation victims out there, both the dead ones, and the survived ones, (myself included) and shows you don't care about anyone else's feelings but your own if you're seriousely going to say that suffocation is the best way to go out, or at least is not a horrible way to go.
How is suffocation not painful? Is intense panic not considered painful, or are you just super human, or some sort of alien, because 99.9999% of people would experience suffocation as extremely horrific, and painful.
I bet you wouldn't allow one of your friends to tie you up, and hold a plastic bag tightly over your head, and suffocate you until you pass out, as a test, and then film it for us to prove your point.
"Both through my different jobs and through my MMA training I have suffocated and been blood choked many times. Losing the blood flow to your brain is faster, but none of them are particulary painfull at all.. Choking takes a while as you need to use the o2 you already have inhaled before you pass out."
Can you elaborate on that part for me? What jobs besides MMA caused you to suffocate? Can you go into details about all the times you suffoacted, how, and why they happened in the first place?
If they happened during MMA, this strikes me as odd, and highly disturbing. Only Blood Chokes are supposed to be legal in those, and Air Chokes illegal.
And if Air Chokes ARE legal, they are only supposed to be used to make the other person tap out. So no passing out should EVER happen from an Air Choke. Blood Chokes are one thing because you can pass out in seconds. But Air Chokes take minutes on end.
So, why would you be suffocated until you pass out? Did you just not tap out during the Air Choke, and remained stubborn until you passed out?
Because there is no such wrestling tournanemt, organisations, comapnies, sports, etc where doing an Air Choke on someone with no way of tapping out until they passed out would be legal.
If that happened, whoever allowed it would be sued, arrested, and shut down as that would violate all safety regulations, and consent, and would be abuse, and assault.
I'm really confused. Please elaborate on all the times you suffocated, how, and why they happened in the first place.