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Harness webbing information

Discussion in 'Hogarthian Diving' started by SuperSeaMonkey, Feb 21, 2017.

  1. jeffmg

    jeffmg Angel Fish

    The h's are made equidistant from the bolt hole in the middle of the webbing.
    They're pretty useful if you alternate between a thin wetsuit in the tropics and a dry suit at home, also good for ensuring your shoulder straps are the same length and for tweaking lengths if you're having trouble with trim
  2. cool_hardware52

    cool_hardware52 Dive Equipment Manufacturer

    Keep in mind that all webbing will vary a bit in terms of "hand" from production run to production run, some mills more than others, and that is just the mills.

    In reality the end user may not even know what mill makes the webbing they are buying.

    ~10 years ago we were sourcing our webbing from a nationally know textile supplier and initially the webbing was fine. It was 50 mm (vs genuine 2 inch) which means it was almost certainly of foreign origin.
    Then we stated having troubles and had to reject many cases. We'd get some that was fine, and another batch that way too soft, etc. We had to order waay ahead to be able to reject it and try again.

    Turns out the big name textile company I was buying from didn't make there own webbing, they were just a broker for any number of foreign mills. What we got was a function of which foreign mill was the lowest price the day we ordered. Or more correctly who was the low bidder when the "broker" ordered the last container full.

    I finally tracked down a domestic mill. There aren't many left. Good stuff, reasonably consistent, genuine 2 inch vs 1.97" (50 mm) Having said that there is still a bit of variability from batch to batch, but it's within an acceptable range.

    As a side note I prefer stiffer webbing. (Shocker I know:) ) Soft webbing tends to roll on itself when donning.

    Our webbing works well with the DSS Glide Harness Adapter as the GHA doesn't rely on the webbing having to bend much as it passes through the GHA. (That BTW is why the DSS GHA works even while standing wearing doubles)

    If you are looking for webbing for use with adjustable buckles, or other "slide 'o' matic" systems, DSS webbing is probably not the best choice. The trade off with softer weaves is difficulty is getting your triglides to do their job and keep the drings from moving. The good news is webbing is cheap, the penalty for error is pretty small.

    Oh I should add that buy the heaviest gage triglides you can find, and make sure they stay flat. Thin Triglides, as in thinner sheet metal, will distort. The center bar ends up raised above the other two, and the webbing has a straight shot through all three. If that happens they tend to slide around on all webbing. The quick fix is to hammer them flat again, the longer term fix is a thicker triglide.

    Last edited: Feb 26, 2017
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  3. cool_hardware52

    cool_hardware52 Dive Equipment Manufacturer

    Oh and don't sweat the grommet in the middle of the webbing, just burn a hole with soldering Iron or hot 40 cal empty brass. The grommet adds nothing. The webbing makes 2 900 degree bends and 1 180 degree bend from where the hole is to where it passes over the top of the plate towards the diver. once a plate is laced you could cut the webbing in half at the hole and King Kong could not get the harness to slip......

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  4. dumpsterDiver

    dumpsterDiver Banned

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Even quicker is to stack two thin triglides..
  5. cool_hardware52

    cool_hardware52 Dive Equipment Manufacturer

    Might work. I just waterjet cut some from 13 gage. :)

  6. wbatten1

    wbatten1 NAUI Instructor

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: San Antonio, TX
    I just bought webbing from Deep Six... Very interesting. It's soft and coated in silicone. I won't be able to dive it until March 10th, so I'll wait to post thoughts / opinions until then. Right now, I'm wondering how well the D-rings will stay in place...
  7. Doby45

    Doby45 Do I have something in my teeth?

    The DGX webbing I just got is VERY similar to the H webbing.. Nice webbing..
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  8. Michael Guerrero

    Michael Guerrero Solo Diver

    I've found the webbing from DGX to be very soft (just bought 25ft of it a couple months ago) as compared to my previous webbing (either from DRIS or Piranha, can't remember). I was hoping for the stiffer, thicker webbing.
  9. eelnoraa

    eelnoraa DIR Practitioner

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: San Francisco Bay Area
    Maybe you are comparing DGX to Piranhna?? But this is what I am afraid of, the supplier and/or material changes, hard to get back that perfect webbing!!! My DGX webbing is definitely stiffer than my DRIS webbing. DGX is true 2", DRIS is 50mm. Both were purchase less than 2 years ago.
  10. tech3324

    tech3324 Lionfish

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: SoCal
    I just checked some Halcyon webbing against DRIS webbing and both are 50mm. Can width vary lot to lot?

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