Naive - Difference between DIR & hogarthian?

[OE2X]

No need to buy into the DIR thing any more than what works for you. It's all about having fun and being safe.

 

[JeffG]

I make around two-hundred dives per year, including, open ocean...

500 hundred dives as a DM on one of these over the last twenty years:

http://www.gulf-diving.com/pics/Russ Pics/rinnboats.jpg

...125 miles off shore in a 1000' of water watching out for these people:

http://www.tomsscuba.com/photo-g/Texas/mv_fling.jpg

... next to one of these:

http://www.tomsscuba.com/photo-g/Texas/rig.gif

I know the area sharks on a first name basis. And I said that I use BP/W inland...

WOW.................Awesome...You are THE MAN

 

[cornfed]

This why I asked for a source. I find nothing similar on the GUE site, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.

I believe GI went off on this on Quest one time.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

I make around two-hundred dives per year, including, open ocean...

500 hundred dives as a DM on one of these over the last twenty years:

http://www.gulf-diving.com/pics/Russ Pics/rinnboats.jpg

...125 miles off shore in a 1000' of water watching out for these people:

http://www.tomsscuba.com/photo-g/Texas/mv_fling.jpg

... next to one of these:

http://www.tomsscuba.com/photo-g/Texas/rig.gif

I know the area sharks on a first name basis. And I said that I use BP/W inland...

Pretty cool pics ... we'll have to talk offline sometime. I'd enjoy meeting some of your shark friends ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[Bob3]

Following this thread is a lot like watching a train wreck...
A few years back when backplates were all the rage & everybody & their uncle had them at DEMA, I had a chance to take a look at all the offerings. I wasn't overly impressed with a lot of them, most due to being too thin of a plate to take a proper radius in the slot edges. Some that were thick enough hadn't been finished properly.
Sure enough, folks were soon commenting on how quickly their webbing was wearing out. Imagine that.
You can have a perfectly DIR rigged backplate & it won't hold a candle to a properly finished & rigged plate with sewn webbing that will outlast it by 10 years.

 

[BigJetDriver]

I carry a six footer, which is a good thing..... we've all been waving our sausages at the ferry... :11:

You naughty boy! We arrest 'em downtown all the time for that kinda stuff! And such a braggart too, lad!!!! :11:

Rob

 

[BigJetDriver]

Following this thread is a lot like watching a train wreck...
You can have a perfectly DIR rigged backplate & it won't hold a candle to a properly finished & rigged plate with sewn webbing that will outlast it by 10 years.

Bob,

You're right. It's like a train wreck in slow motion! :11:

My personal preference would be the Miller. What's yours?

Rob

 

[doole]

Train wreck perhaps, but I can remember a day when it would have been more like the Battle of Dunkirk...

 

[BigboyDan]

No need for a Dunkirk now - much more has been exposed for what it really is... a modest debate shall necessarily continue until a new right way to do it comes alone, as it always does.

 

[Mo2vation]

Cool.

Bedmund, thanks. Tobin has actually already PM'd a couple of times. He going to see about making me a pad for the backplate. 'cuz I'm a woman and I like comfort.

Now, if I'm DIR, then my buddy would have to have the same equipment, right?

Another pad? What, your new 7mm isn't enough padding?? Resist.

Your desire to improve your game has been thoughfully considered and is surely well intentioned. There are things you're seeing down there in other divers - control, watermanship, etc. that you believe you'd benefit from.

As Lance Armstrong said - its not the bike. As Ken Rockwell said - its not the camera.

Its not the gear.

Gear does its job when it works, and when it stays out of the way. There are many, many capable divers diving all manner of gear. Seems to me you've already started to separate the gear and the training you're desiring - and you're seeing them reconnect at Hog / DIR. Kinda cool, really.

Just as others have been saying - DIR is more than gear. Its just easy to spot us before we get into the water because of the stuff that's on the deck of the boat. DIR is not about the gear. I don't think you're getting hung up on that. I hope not.

If you want to dive BP/W - rock on. Dive a few, make a choice, pick one up and dive in. If you want to extend your training to the areas you initially spoke of in your first post, rock on... find an excellent instructor, strap on your BP/W and dive in.

However, if you've read Fundies and spent time with some of us DIR types, and believe DIR is for you, rock on...take DIR/F and dive in. I looked around, tried some other stuff, and DIR works for me. If its not your thing, cool. DIR doesn't have the market cornered on excellent, capable divers - you can surely reach your objectives by not being DIR. I just can't share lunch with you anymore....

I suggest you get rock solid in your dive objectives first, then determine the best way to get there - the way that best embraces the things you want to achieve and your dive style. For me, DIR was the way. It may not be for you.

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Ken