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Discussion in 'Accidents & Incidents' started by Ken Kurtis, Oct 19, 2020.

  1. Johnoly

    Johnoly ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Good to see some 'advice' in advance of hard rules from the CG. The final rules are usually extremely detailed and take months to finalize (ie fire bucket rules) but it will be interesting to see how they 'define" the wording "Should be" in the statement below:

    Lithium-powered devices and batteries should be removed from the charger once they are fully charged.

    That could mean 5 minutes, 5 hours, 5 days. Or in other words,/ Active 100% monitoring / Scheduled interval monitoring / pre-arranged charging times. Which probably brings us full circle back to roving watch.

    Thank you for posting my friend Tom !!
  2. Rooster59

    Rooster59 Solo Diver

    I would feel safer on Wookie's boat than on another random boat that had passed Coast Guard inspections. That is the root of my previous comment.
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  3. Wookie

    Wookie Curmudgeon Apprentice ScubaBoard Business Sponsor ScubaBoard Supporter

    PVA personally went to bat for me on a number of issues. They seem to represent their members well. I can’t say that they enhance safety overall, but they have the ear of the Coast Guard as well as the House Transportation committee.
    Johnoly likes this.
  4. Wookie

    Wookie Curmudgeon Apprentice ScubaBoard Business Sponsor ScubaBoard Supporter

    The navy went much farther. Every battery must be approved for each application. So if you have a d cell non rechargeable lithium battery in a crane anti-two block system, that battery must be approved by the nice lady in Norfolk that approves such batteries. That doesn’t allow the same battery in another system, nor does it allow the same battery in the same system on another boat.

    Vape pens are flatly prohibited.
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  5. dmaziuk

    dmaziuk Regular of the Pub

    Exactly: the customer developed an unanticipated need for which the system was not designed. For systems built decades ago to "household" standards, that's likely Situation Normal(tm) now. What percentage of owners who must address these new customer needs to stay afloat, have no business touching the electrical system, is anybody's guess.
    danddmiller1 and BackAfter30 like this.
  6. KevinNM

    KevinNM DIR Practitioner

  7. HalcyonDaze

    HalcyonDaze Contributor

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: Miami
    Skimmed through this Sunday night and there were a few details I hadn't seen before. In particular, the evidence that some of the passengers made it to the foot of the forward stairs seems to definitively answer the question of whether at least some of them woke up before being overcome by smoke.
  8. Ken Kurtis

    Ken Kurtis Contributor

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: Beverly Hills, CA
    Just to be clear, that's speculation, not hard evidence. Given that the boat flipped and sank 60 feet to the bottom, and the passengers were also possibly relocated during the fall, there's no way to definitely know who was where or what they were doing at any given point in time during the fire and aftermath.
    Bob DBF and chillyinCanada like this.
  9. KevinNM

    KevinNM DIR Practitioner

    "Upon examination of the wreckage, investigators found silhouette evidence markings resembling the outline of persons or objects of non-uniform shape (e.g., duffel bags) in the bunkroom at the bottom of the main stairs leading to the salon, on the port side forward lower double bunk, and adjacent vertical and horizontal bunk frames at bunks 17L and 19L (figure 22). 22 The air conditioning intake louver at the bottom of the main stairs had an observable silhouette and traces of human tissue on it."
    Nirvana, darren a and Diving Dubai like this.
  10. Marie13

    Marie13 Great Lakes Mermaid ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Great Lakes
    Weren’t some of the bodies also found with footwear on?

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