Full Cave Training With GDI Report

[ScubaTexan]

I'd be happy to name names if we can get a ruling from a mod that it's okay to do that.

Of coures, there are also PMs.

J

If you will white-out the names like this, we'll let it slide....LOL

 

[Jeff Toorish]

Huh, that is odd. My full cave instructor introduced me to the idea of a "backup primary", where you carry your normal array of lights, plus a handheld light that could serve as a primary, should your original primary fail. That gives you the option of continuing the dive (as you still have 3 lights) or using a full power light to exit. Which, after having to scooter out from the Bats at Ginnie on a backup I can see the logic. Point being, that light would be an excellent choice for that application, or for boat diving, traveling, etc., but I don't see it as a good choice for a normal backup.

Considering lots of people use Princeton Tec 40s as backups, I certainly have no issue using mine as backup backups. I have also read lately of people using small LED lights as a "4th" and keeping them on the entire dive, I believe it is was a UK Q40 eLED. If you're looking for new backups, I recommend the Photon Torpedos, the LED versions are probably the best on the market.

Thanks. I went with the DR 4w Quartz Halogen, I got three of them but I also have a couple of other quartz lights for backups. I like the idea of keeping a 4th light on during the dive.

Jeff

 

[Jeff Toorish]

If you will white-out the names like this, we'll let it slide....LOL

Okay
The primary light was the Salvo 9 Amp NiMH 21w HID. I stress, the problem was the battery charger not the light. Salvo checked both and replaced the charger immediately, entire turn around was about a week or so. I thought their service was impressive.

The backup lights were the 10w Handheld HID from DiveRite, purchased at DiveRite Express. It was a customer service rep at DiveRite Express who told me about the limitations of the lights and that they are not considered backup lights for technical or overhead environments. Oddly, on the DiveRite website, they are listed in the backup light section.
Read between the lines

 

[H2Andy]

so you surived RIck, eh, jtoorish?

i still have dreams (well, nightmares) about my clases with him



congratz!!

[edit] jesus christ i'm going blind

 

[Jeff Toorish]

so you surived RIck, eh, jtoorish?

i still have dreams (well, nightmares) about my clases with him



congratz!!

[edit] jesus christ i'm going blind

Thanks Andy.

I am in therapy now.

Jeff

 

[Doubles]

Did you have one of the big NiMH batteries for your primary? I've heard that they can develop charging problems.

The biggest problem with NiMH batteries is that you should never let them completely discharge, and when not used, you should still charge them monthly.

If you fly; Li-Ion batteries could be an issue depending on their size

Cheers

Steve

 

[jeandiver]

Thanks Andy.

I am in therapy now.

Jeff

Hmmm...You killed Rick Eh?
OH BOY !!!!
Hey , you think you had it bad , I had Rick ONE-ON-ONE for Full !!!!! :11:
However , climbing out of Challenge ... (shudder)
Gads ... Er ... Nevermind ... (wowza)

My nightmare is:
Mad Canadian comes flying around the back of a rock and ...
(Film at 11 )

Congrats btw !!!
I salute you for the Challenge climb-out.
I would have taken the instructors tanks and his lights and swam back ...
But that's just me.

Jeano Beano

P.S. After going thru the torture of App/Full and listening to other people comments on their class(es) also , I have learned this one rule...
NEVER , NEVER , leave your instructor in a cave !!!!
Why?
Answer:
Er , I think they like it !!!

 

[Jeff Toorish]

Hmmm...You killed Rick Eh?
OH BOY !!!!
Hey , you think you had it bad , I had Rick ONE-ON-ONE for Full !!!!! :11:
But I got the chance to silt him out BIG TIME !!!

My nightmare...

Mad Canadian comes flying around the back of a rock and ...

(Film at 11 )

Congrats btw !!!

Jeano Beano

P.S. After going thru the torture of App/Full and listening to other people comments on their class(es) also , I have learned this one rule...
NEVER , NEVER , leave your instructor in a cave !!!!

Why?
Answer:
Er , I think they like it !!!

Thanks Jeano!

As you know, Rick has a lot of tricks.

Jeff

 

[GreenDiverDown]

You need one of these...

 

[Jason B]

You need one of these...

Agreed - excellent charger!

As for the back-up light issue, I'm amazed you were allowed to use a light that used rechargable batteries.

For back-ups, get some photon torpedoes and be done with it.