igills new iphone case

Discussion in 'Computers, Gauges, Watches and Analyzers' started by sujo, Jul 28, 2012.

  1. sujo

    sujo Angel Fish

    # of Dives: 25 - 49
    Location: Fredericton, NB
    53
    1
    0
    I know this is very new on the market but has anyone looked at the igills iphone case? Water-proof case with a diving app allows you to turn your iphone into a dive computer, complete with light and compass. Very interested in it as I am looking for a new computer, this would be almost perfect
    John
     
  2. gummybun

    gummybun Nassau Grouper

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Toronto, Canada
    89
    1
    8
    Nice as a waterproof case, but any company that suggests you use the same (feeble) battery as a back up light and video camera as your dive computer, well thats just plain dumbass. The fact they use it as a sales tool, placing lives at risk doing so, causes me to suspect the entire product, as the manufacturer does not seem to care a wit.

    Suggesting it as a log keeping back-up, well maybe, or to check your stocks while 100 ft. down, yes it would be usefull for that.

    Also, everyone who uses clamshell underwater photo cases knows just how vunerable these case designs are to even an eyelash hair across the o-ring, to cause a flood. Your dive computer, in a clamshell? I suppose they might be planning a bluetooth transmitter, for the full 'roulette version'

    Honestly, I think you would not find a buddy to dive with. But I admit it does look like a very cool case - If the voice functions work... I want one!
     
  3. muddiver

    muddiver Divemaster

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: West Coast USA
    2,612
    95
    48
    My iPhone has locked up too many time for me to trust it as a dive computer.

    I also don't trust an electronic "Swiss army knife" to be used as a dive computer. I just don't see an iPhone being robust enough and having the correct agorythms to be a dive computer. At that price, why not just get a real dive computer? and not risk flooding your phone.
     
  4. DiveNav

    DiveNav ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Southern California
    3,741
    447
    83
    what is wrong with bluetooth?

    Alberto (aka eDiver)
     
  5. gummybun

    gummybun Nassau Grouper

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Toronto, Canada
    89
    1
    8
    Nothing wrong with bluetooth, I love it (at least at 1 atmosphere, no idea how it works in water) but my point was - you are trusting a *phone* to display depth, bottom time, etc., and so why not let your phone manage your tank presure as well and put it in charge of monitoring all the data that your life depends on. In for a penny, in for a pound.
     
  6. eelnoraa

    eelnoraa DIR Practitioner

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: San Francisco Bay Area
    3,054
    558
    113
    seems too too to be true. how would iphone know your depth? That itself prevent it to be a dive computer.
     
  7. DiveNav

    DiveNav ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Southern California
    3,741
    447
    83
    A bit of tiny magic?

    See depth - and water temperature - indications on picture below taken with iPhone :D

    divenav_bb_batray_iphone4s.jpg

    Alberto (aka eDiver)
     
    divecosd likes this.
  8. racerx_

    racerx_ Barracuda

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: Singapore
    361
    50
    28

    Using GPS? Or external transmitter?


    Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk
     
  9. Thalassamania

    Thalassamania Diving Polymath ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives:
    Location: On a large pile of smokin' A'a, the most isolated
    22,159
    2,730
    0
    I imagine that the case contains the transducers that are needed for depth (and maybe the receiver for the tank pressure sender), the rest of the stuff (e.g., a flux gate compass, etc.) is already there, but GPS does not work underwater. If us quite possible for the phone to provide tank pressure, air consumption, depth, decompression status, compass, navigation (if the accelerometers are sensitive enough), as well as still and motion photography.
     
  10. eelnoraa

    eelnoraa DIR Practitioner

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: San Francisco Bay Area
    3,054
    558
    113
    GPS won't know depth in water and temperature. The sateline signal is very weak. Water will absorb most of the signal, so a GPS receiver isn't going to be useful underwater.
     
  11. epointer

    epointer Nassau Grouper

    173
    9
    0
  12. accel_scuba

    accel_scuba PADI Pro

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Westchester, NY
    50
    2
    0
    I'd consider it as a backup. However, all signs point to a new port connection on the iPhone 5. I'd be hard pressed to buy such an expensive accessory for it to be obsolete with the next iPhone model.
     
  13. nimoh

    nimoh Public Safety Diver

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Rochester, MN
    3,457
    1,679
    113

    although the temp and depth are nice features, a wide angle lens conversion, and color filters would be nice.
     
  14. Thalassamania

    Thalassamania Diving Polymath ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives:
    Location: On a large pile of smokin' A'a, the most isolated
    22,159
    2,730
    0
    Obsolescence is a problem, you're likely going to have to replace the case (or get it upgraded) every two years with your phone, or just put your old phone in airplane mode and let it become part of your dive gear.
     
  15. Crush

    Crush Loggerhead Turtle

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Western Canada
    2,517
    477
    0
    When I first saw this product advertized on SB I clicked on the add immediately (this should make NetDoc happy). I read the description and initially thought that I might want to buy this product. The "save $1000 on dive equipment" sales pitch was a putoff, but as someone that loves their iPhone I was warm and fuzzy all over thinking that now I can share my dives with my phone! :) However, here is the main reason that I won't buy the case - it won't let me replace my P&S underwater camera, so there will be no decrease in the amount of kit (or clutter) that I carry into the water with me (I am not going to ditch my wrist-mounted computer or wrist-mounted compass). I don't doubt that the photo quality is similar (8 MP with iPhone 4s, 12 MP with my P&S) or that video quality is comparable (HD in both cases), but I stuck a huge, fast SD card into my camera to allow over an hour of HD video. Not only will my iPhone battery not last as long as my camera battery (especially when taking photos at depth with a flash) but I won't be able to shoot as much video (I have a 16 GB iPhone). Now, (this may not be possible - not sure) if the manufacturers could build in a spare, swapable battery to boost the iPhone's battery life (e.g., using standard Ni-MH camera battery) and additional memory via, say, an SD card (perhaps for transfer of photos and video after the dive so it doesn't have to happen in real time) then they would have removed any barrier to my buying the product.
     
    LilMsMagic likes this.
  16. nimoh

    nimoh Public Safety Diver

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Rochester, MN
    3,457
    1,679
    113
    As Thalassamania said, there is a problem with obsolescence. There are already rumors that the new iPhone will have a different dataport.
     
  17. Crush

    Crush Loggerhead Turtle

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Western Canada
    2,517
    477
    0
    I read his post, but to my mind that is not a problem. I upgrade my phones regularly and wouldn't care that much if I had to take my "old 4S" on diving trips but used the newest iPhone otherwise. However, I recognize that this might be an issue to some. To me, the main inconveniences are battery life and memory.
     
  18. Firebird2XC

    Firebird2XC Single Diver

    # of Dives: 25 - 49
    Location: Dallas, TX
    62
    7
    0
    I like all the commentary made about the tech specs of the product by people who actually read nothing about them. Funny. Come on kids, let's make educated decisions about gear.

    I'm using an in-console computer, and it's great. That said, the features such as GPS tagging, auto-logging, and photo sharing would make this a super fun gadget to have. Rely exclusively on it as a computer? Not until it's been shaken down extensively in the field. It's essentially a hybrid prototype. I'm way too new to diving to be testing experimental equipment....

    ... granted, one assumes that legal liability and product testing would have ensured that the item works as advertised, right?
    As for crashes- it says to put the phone in airplane mode and shut down all other background aps. I run my phone in similar modes and it has never crashed under those circumstances.

    As for cost and upgrade issues- if the phone is replaced.. wouldn't that mean there would be tons of cheap handsets out there to be used as a part of the device or as a spare? When I upgrade my phone next year, I'll likely just keep my iPhone 4 as a backup.. and possibly as part of this setup.. as a supplement.

    Just my .02.
     
    LilMsMagic likes this.
  19. nimoh

    nimoh Public Safety Diver

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Rochester, MN
    3,457
    1,679
    113
    not sure to whom you are referring, but I don't see any inaccurate comments in this thread
     
    Crush likes this.
  20. Hostage

    Hostage Barracuda

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: Rochester, NY
    218
    12
    0
    This seems like a cool and trendy idea. The touch screen wouldn't work, but the buttons that are added by using the docking port add additional functionality. It does add the ability to allow you to call in case of an emergency, which I would think is it's greatest feature. Owning an iphone 4 for over 2 years, I do worry about it crashing, so I would only use it if I had redudancy. It don't see how you could hard reset the phone in case of a hard crash, which I have seen. I have seen Apple's native application crash on the iphone. Also the case adds additional sensors to allow the phone to function as a dive computer. This product seems to fall short of providing the ability to read you tank level, which would be a lot more helpful. The price is the real killer $330, for a plastic case. You can get a nice diver computer for that. Their price comparrision is a little false, because many digital under water cameras come with a picture and video mode. In addition you can get a nice one for $250. Though the lights are what a good under water camera needs and the iphone light isn't going to cut it.

    If the price was lower and it included a transducer for your tank, then I might get it for a redudant "cool" system.
     

Share This Page