What can or does your LDS need to do to EARN your business?

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If you don't already know ask your suppliers certification agencies or find something else to occupy your time.

Be thankful when a person with some knowlege walks in that has found love elsewhere and has left the requirement to obtain everything they have ever heard of yesterday for nothing outside the door of your charity organisation.
 
If you don't already know ask your suppliers certification agencies or find something else to occupy your time.

Be thankful when a person with some knowlege walks in that has found love elsewhere and has left the requirement to obtain everything they have ever heard of yesterday for nothing outside the door of your charity organisation.

Why don't I understand your posts? :beer:? I try, I really do...
 
Here's my input from a very new divers standpoint (certified for 1 month). My LDS should be customer oriented just a simple "hi" or "can I help you" will go a long way. Get to know what type of diving I plan to do this weekend and in the future. Even if it's just for the 20 minutes I will be in your store. Give suggestions so I can make an informed purchase. If I will be diving 60 feet in a quarry, don't advise me to buy doubles just to make the sale.
I stopped by my LDS this past week to pick up my basic equipment wetsuit, mask, etc. while we were discussing fins. I narrowed my choices down to 2 different ones. The owner told me to take both fins try them and purchase the pair I liked. This convinced me I was in the right shop.
The consignment idea that Jim talked about would be a very interesting concept. Taking it a step further and offering a trade in for example. I'm looking for a BP/W setup for cave diving I bring you in a jacket BC and you knock 150 off. Service and resale the jacket to a new diver for 250 and everyone is happy in the deal. I get what I want the shop makes some money and the new diver gets equipment.
 
I ask this as a LDS. With so many people shoping at the on-line stores, how can one compete. We are an Aqualung Dealer as well as many other brands and we stock all of the new and current product offering. Having a well stocked and fairly price innventory doesn't appear to matter to the buying public. Having Master Techs on staff to service your regualtors doesn't matter.

What matters I ask? How can we EARN your business?

I do appreciate all answers and a constructive discussion.

Thanks

For me... Be fair and be honest!!!

lee
 
Wow, I can't believe I forgot this one earlier, but it's a biggie for me.

Acknowledge me when I walk into your shop. If you're busy with another customer a simple "Hi, I'll be with you in a moment" will suffice. But let me know that you're aware of my presence! Once you're free, take the time to actually approach me and ask to help. Don't yell at me from across the counter where you're sitting on your stool. If I tell you I'm just looking, back off and let me browse, but let me know you're available if I have any questions.
 
Things my LDS does that mean I'll pretty much never leave:

Great staff -- people persons every last one who are not on commission and who will spend however long a customer needs to spend to answer their questions.

All the little things -- If I need a particular bolt, buckle, d-ring whatever they have them sitting in bins, there's replacement bulbs for lights, there's rings and seals of every size and material. They go well out of their way to make sure they have the parts IN STOCK for anything and everything -- even if it is for equipment they don't sell.

Seminars and Events -- Fun dives, lectures, service dives (lake clean ups are very popular), interesting and informative slide shows on upcoming travel, lots of travel opportunities, cook-outs at the lakes combined with 'try it' dives where the new gear is there to play with, and so on. In other words, do what the on-line retailers can't offer -- interpersonal fun activities that engage the diving community. Become known as the LDS to be around to actually do diving related things.

Speaking of Travel -- offer unique travel opportunities. Everyone goes to Coz. Have you offered a trip to dive in Iceland? Norway? Antarctica? Vanuatu? Fiji? Truk? Egypt? Tech dive trips? Do you offer only 1 week trips? Add a 2-week one, you might be surprised at how many people are interested! How about hitting the wrecks in the Great Lakes? Cage diving with great whites? Have the Caribbean trip, but offer a wide variety of trips, you'll catch the interest of a lot more people.

Exceptional Classes -- everyone has training. What do you do to make yours top theirs? It can be little things like having women's BCs, in all sizes, available for retail gear. It can be big things like a BBQ at the lake after every class with all of the instructors who aren't working showing up to congratulate the new divers. It can be goofy things like little cheap prizes for students answering questions. It must include only using the very best instructors and assistants you can find. Monitor your classes and question your customers about how the classes can be better. Listen to them! You have to, at the end of the day, make it clear that your classes are just better experiences.

It all comes down to this: customers will 'stick' with shops that make them feel welcome and which provide them with meaningful experiences that make those customers want to be at the shop. If people are walking in your store to just hang around and BS for an 'after work surface interval' every couple of weeks, they're going to pick up that new reg on the wall from you the next time they're in rather than even shop on-line. If you don't have the customers in the store, all the time, then you're going to struggle.

Lastly, diversify your offerings. Do you carry gear aimed at the local high school swimming and diving teams? Do you offer gear for boaters? If you have your own pool, do you offer swimming classes through the local community ed programs? Do you market your red cross and efr courses widely? Getting customers in the store is a big part of selling your wares to them, and there's plenty of ways to do that which are only tangentially related to scuba.
 
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Don't assume you know "who" I am when I walk in your store. Odds are, when I walk in your store and I've been diving longer than all your staff put together. Don't assume I'm a novice.

I've found LDSs to be like Harley Davidson Stores. They treat you like crap until they learn you already own a bike...then they treat you like gold (because they see a "buying" customer and dollar signs). LDSs seem to do the same...at least the smaller ones do. They are often smug and think that because, they own the shop, that their defication has no odor. I have ALWAYS been treated better in large "chain style" dive shops or by internet customer service.
 
After reading through this I realized Dive Shops and RV shops are kind of the same.
Both have a Limited Customer Base and are dealing with internet competition.

Biggest difference is almost all my rv stuff comes from a local guy. No way he can stock everything, but he has a website provided by his distibutor, I pick his shop, browse the catalog and pick what I need, I see his retail price and the site can send him my order. It then comes in with his regualr order and he CALLS me. I get internet convenience, local pick up ( no shipping cahrges), and they know who I am.

Oh do you have CHAIRS in your dive shop. I stop by to get 6 fills and end up walking around for 30 minutes while the fills get done. Now it's great that they can usually fill tanks when I come in, but maybe a place to sit would be nice.

Oh, no way I will pay $79 for an Impulse 3 snorkel. JMO but basic gear should be low profit. It's important for new divers to be fitted properly, internet can't do it. But eventually I will find out if you stuck it to me on my personal gear.
 
I have been reading these post for a while now. I will repeat some of the responces from my experiances also. Tryed to work with one dive shop. 2 different sales people tryed to convince me to buy 2 different types of setups. both over the 1500.00 mark.

second LDS I asked for package deals and had to go out mutilple times and cross check the numbers pointing out to them the places I was looking at just trying to get them closer in price.

I would gladly take a dive shop that charges a small amount more if I could just get them to be honest instead of just upsales. when you walk in letting them know up front that you are looking to outfit 3 to potentialy 4 people with gear and are looking for that home dive shop they would want to do it right.

I grew up in a family run busness. word of mouth is best advertisement you could ask for. if your customers like you and the service they will promote you for free.
 
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