I'm a rec instructor. I want to be a tec instructor. No tec experience. I'm gonna need your help.

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Anyone else need all these Tech cert cards in a hurry as I'm warming up the laminator now?

Sure. Can you please print me an NACD Advanced Wreck & Cave Specialty Frontmount Argox Extended Decompression DPV Diver Instructor Card? I've earned this and worked very hard and tirelessly on the Internet to successfully gain this coveted knowledge and life experience.

I'm happy to pay in pizza (Papa Gino's or Little Caesar's) or a six-pack of beer (Budweiser or your choice of a fine craft beer like Milwaukee's Best or Busch Light none of that Pabst Blue Ribbon sh*t).
 
If you can get your arse to Mexico in March (contact me for dates) I'll put you through a cavern class and access your readiness to become a technical diver... charge will be $1 but you'll pay your expenses.

Training@techdivertraining.org will get to me.

I want to become a technical and cave diving instructor but I really don't like to go through any training, can I come too just to see if I know everything and ready for it?
 
Let's just say you do this zero-to-hero tech diver then somehow do zero-to-hero tech instructor. The bare minimum for BOTH is what you are asking.
What value do you think such an instructor offers to a student? Why should they go to you?

I don't mean to single you out, but this response is a succinct summary of what I do want to call out.

Why do so many people here read a question about going from Zero to Hero and automatically assume that the person want to go from Zero to Faux Hero and not True Hero?

I find it really aggravating here on SB that this attitude is The ScubaBoard Standard. Why can't people be presumed to be innocent until proven guilty? Why can't the guy be presumed to be asking a sincere question with the intent to do things the right way, and be given a sincere answer?

Why can't his question be interpreted as "what is the most efficient way to become a GOOD tech instructor"? Does anyone here really think he wants to know how to become a worthless, crappy tech instructor??

If the answer is "do your first tech training, do 100 dives, take the next level of training, do 100 more dives. After x00 tech dives, and teaching X OW classes, Y Nitrox classes, and Z Deep classes, then do the Tec 40 Instructor training, etc." then why not just say that?

I feel for the OP. I have been in his position on SB many times in the past. Ask a question, with every intention to do things the RIGHT way, and basically get flamed by people who just ASSume that I am asking how to do things with shortcuts. A desire to be efficient with training time and training dollar DOES NOT automatically mean a desire to take shortcuts. There IS a shortest and most efficient path to any goal. Why flame someone for asking what that path is? He didn't say he wants a card to be a tech instructor tomorrow! He wants to know the path, so he can be a tech instructor EVENTUALLY.

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I am not a tech instructor. I am a pretty novice tech diver and an OW instructor and I MAY be a tech instructor some day.

I am inserting my thoughts into your post (below). Take them with a grain of salt.

1. Feel dumb because I used "search" thinking this would have been covered. Didn't find much. If I missed some good threads, please point me to them.

I am sorry that you have gotten so many non-helpful responses. You shouldn't be made to feel dumb for what you've asked.

2. Padi OWSI for ten years. Bored. I need a new challenge. I want to go from tec zero to tec hero in the shortest time. Meaning one course after another as much as possible so I don't have to take unnecessary time off and I keep travel cost low. I want to avoid the take one course, come back next month for next course schedule. I don't have tech experience beyond chatting with a few tec divers on boats.

I think the TDI course stack is the most time-efficient one. Take Adv Nitrox, Deco Procedures, and Helitrox all in one go. Then Trimix, then Adv Trimix. I don't think there is any way to string them all together into one trip. You need real experience in between each class.

Keep in mind that the first tech course is the biggest, hardest step up. AN/DP/H should be the biggest challenge. From there, Trimix is a smaller step. Adv Trimix is another small step (compared to that first one).

Therefore, choose your instructor for the first tech course wisely and allow plenty of time. I would not recommend one of the 4-days-and-you're-done type of classes for the first tech training.


3. Pros and cons of various agencies. Which is in the most demand for employment?

When you're talking tech, I don't think the thinking is nearly the same, when it comes to choosing an agency, as it is for rec diving. When it comes to tech, it seems to me to be a lot more about individual instructors, their experience, and their reputation. Their students are much less likely to care about the agency itself (than they are when you're talking about people looking for an OW class). So, for teaching tech, any shop, of any "brand" might hire a tech instructor from any other brand. In other words, a PADI or SSI shop might hire a TDI or IANTD tech instructor just as readily as they would hire a PADI Tec instructor. It really just depends on the shop, I think. The community is small. If you pursue the path of teaching tech, by the time you have sufficient experience to actually teach tech, you will probably also have your own network of contacts for finding work (both in terms of shops that you might work with and in terms of students that want to train with you). And with those contacts, it seems to me like it won't matter so much what agency is on your instructor card.

I hold SDI and TDI instructor cards and I very much like the agency and they way they work with instructors. I also very much like the TDI Open Circuit tech course stack.


4. List of courses from start to finish. PADI is Enriched Air, Enriched Air Instructor, Deep Instructor, MSDT, Tec 40, Tec 45, Tec 50, Tec Deep Instructor, then TriMix, Sidemount, Gas Blender, and CCR... Do I have that right?

I've never taken a PADI course, so no clue. To teach TDI Adv Nitrox, you need to have issued at least 10 regular Nitrox certs. To teach TDI Deco Procedures, you need to have issued at least 10 Deep or Advanced Adventure Diver certs. To teach TDI Helitrox, you need to be a Trimix Instructor. To be a TDI Trimix instructor, you need to have issued at least 10 AN+DP certs. For all of those, you also need to have the diver certification at that level.

5. Gear upgrades? More regs? BP/W? What else? Any specific recommendations?

You'll need more regs, but you'll find out better about that by finding an instructor and starting down the tech diver training path. You will only need to buy 1, 2, or maybe 3 regs to get started. And probably 1 x AL40. You'll also need a wing for doubles or a sidemount rig with enough lift for doubles (depending on which way you want to go into tech). My only recommendation is to buy regs with a swivel turret and a 5th LP port on the bottom. They give better hose routing on back mount doubles, in side mount, and on deco bottles.

6. Suggested locations or specific dive centers? I can go worldwide.

For you first tech training, I would suggest finding a tech instructor that you can work with on a regular basis. Therefore, someone close enough to home that you can train with them on weekends. I think that first step of training merits more than just 4 or 5 days in a row and "done".

7. How long will this take? How much will it cost?

A long time and a lot.

8. I'm the type that likes to get the texts months ahead of a class and read the hell out of them before I show up. What could I start reading now that will help me excel at this?

Deco for Divers, by Mark Powell, and The Six Skills, by Steve Lewis (aka @Doppler from earlier in this thread).

9. What else can I do to be an excellent student and an excellent instructor?

Show up with an empty cup and then do as much technical diving as you can. The more varied the experience, the better.

10. What questions have I not thought of yet.

11 through Infinity... :D

THANK YOU.
 
ps. I know there's not a formula. It's not as simple as "do x00 tech dives, and teach y00 OW certs, etc.".

But that doesn't mean there is not a valid and sincere answer to the OP's question. If you want to respond and you don't have a formula to offer, you could at least outline what YOUR personal path was to becoming a tech instructor, to give the OP some idea...
 
I don't mean to single you out, but this response is a succinct summary of what I do want to call out.

Why do so many people here read a question about going from Zero to Hero and automatically assume that the person want to go from Zero to Faux Hero and not True Hero?

There are no Tech heros, just survivors.
And even if there were heros, the OP is card collecting on the cheap. His whole post is about HIM, absolutely nothing about these potential students and what his "professional development" is offering them. But hey rant all you want.
 
His whole post is about HIM

He asked what HE needs to do. Of course his post is about HIM. Does he really need to explain to anyone here what the benefits to a potential future student would be of him being a good tech instructor? (of course, to get that, you would have to first presume that he was asking how to be a GOOD tech instructor)

If he is just a cheap-ass card collector, then I imagine a sincere and honest answer to his questions will be enough to put him off of even starting down the path. And yet it may be helpful to someone else who reads this thread later... It might even turn out that the OP is more than just a cheap-ass and a sincere answer will be helpful to him, too.... (even if it just helps him realize he doesn't want to be a tech instructor after all)
 
Why do so many people here read a question about going from Zero to Hero and automatically assume that the person want to go from Zero to Faux Hero and not True Hero?

I find it really aggravating here on SB that this attitude is The ScubaBoard Standard. Why can't people be presumed to be innocent until proven guilty? Why can't the guy be presumed to be asking a sincere question with the intent to do things the right way, and be given a sincere answer?

Why can't his question be interpreted as "what is the most efficient way to become a GOOD tech instructor"? Does anyone here really think he wants to know how to become a worthless, crappy tech instructor??

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Padi OWSI for ten years. Bored. I need a new challenge. I want to go from tec zero to tec hero in the shortest time. Meaning one course after another as much as possible so I don't have to take unnecessary time off and I keep travel cost low. I want to avoid the take one course, come back next month for next course schedule.

A thousand dives to become an instructor? Hmmmm. That doesn't sound normal at all. A THOUSAND?

@stuartv the evidence doesn't point to OP having the right motivation or realistic view of what it takes to be a good tech instructor.
 
@stuartv the evidence doesn't point to OP having the right motivation or realistic view of what it takes to be a good tech instructor.

The OP is a LONG way from being a good tech instructor. Obviously. Does that mean that if the OP follows the right path he (or she?) won't become a good tech instructor? I'd guess it would be a VERY rare person that would follow that path from start to finish and arrive unchanged.

Again, why assume the worst about a person? Why not give the answer that you think is right (to be a GOOD instructor)? If they don't get there, or don't even start, then okay... My expectation is that if the OP were to complete the first step of becoming just an entry-level tech diver, he will probably have different thoughts about it all - one way or another.
 
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