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Also, the diving day the whole getaway experience will be better in Loreto than Cabo, in my opinion. That’s why I referenced it. It is a great and historic town and the surrounding mountains and the islands sitting offshore in the Sea of Cortez are gorgeous.
 
Escaping to warm water over a long weekend?

what part of this is hard to understand?

I've gone diving in PV in January, February, March, and April. It was actually colder in April. All I needed was my 2.5mm full suit in January, February, and March. I don't pay much attention to water temperatures but in my mind it qualified as "warm" water. The warm water current that comes up from South America turns West just below PV and heads to Hawai'i. Because of this I'm thinking the water is probably warmer there, for the most part, than at Los Cabos.
 
Also, the diving day the whole getaway experience will be better in Loreto than Cabo, in my opinion. That’s why I referenced it. It is a great and historic town and the surrounding mountains and the islands sitting offshore in the Sea of Cortez are gorgeous.

I'd always wondered where El Camino Real started from and now I know! We were in Loreto earlier this month and the diving kept getting blown out by the winds. We are going to try it again in August. We may need to rent a place with AC and a pool.
 
I ended up going to Cabo after all, but I will definitely keep everyone's great suggestions in mind for my next trip! I went with Cabo because there was a very cheap ($250 round-trip) flight with the exact departure and return times I wanted, which I didn't have for any of the other places I looked at. I also found a dive hostel for $22/night, which made the whole trip logistically very easy and economical.

The diving was pretty good, to my easily-impressed newbie mind. I got up real close to a bunch of sea lions, which was freaking adorable. Decent number and variety of other critters too. Visibility was fine, not amazing, maybe 20 feet? I'm still learning how to judge that. Water was in the low 70s, a little warmer than it ever gets here in LA so quite pleasant to me. I managed 7 dives over 3 days with a comfortable margin for flying home on the 4th day. My total dive count is still so low that I seem to be having at least one "first" with every dive, and my skills are noticeably better and my confidence is up since before I went on this trip. So, all in all, it was what I was looking for.

Would I go back? Maybe. The dive hostel was an interesting experience. I kind of knew what to expect as far as the facilities. I've stayed in plenty of hostels before, though not since my twenties. I hoped since this one was geared toward divers, the guests would skew a bit older. I was right; the other guests all seemed to be in their thirties too, so I wasn't that weird old person at the hostel I used to side-eye.

The guy who runs it, though, is a bit of an odd duck. He insists the water there is saltier than anywhere else on earth except the Dead Sea, and therefore tries to get everyone wearing 5-10 lbs. of extra lead. (He arranges equipment rentals and boat dives for guests at an extra charge.) He told me I'd need 20 lbs; I told him no, I use 20 lbs. when I dive with a 7mm, and he had me in a 5mm. He insisted I try it, and besides, he only had 4 and 5 lb. weights, so I'd have to go all the way down to 16 lbs. if I wanted less. That seemed like it might not be enough, so I agreed to try the 20 lbs. I did a bouyancy check in the water and sank to a little below eye level while holding a normal breath, so I figured I was a little overweighted but didn't think taking off 4 lbs. would be a good idea.

But he thought I needed even more weight. I told him no, I was fine. He wanted some more weight on his tank, so he asked me to turn around so he could demonstrate to the other diver in our group (who was training to be a DM) how to put the weight on his tank strap so she could do it for him. Apparently he took this opportunity to add another 4 lbs. he thought I needed to my gear, though he didn't tell me this until later.

When I deflated my BCD I sank like a stone and immediately resolved to try 16 lbs. on the second dive. I struggled to get off the bottom; even in my OW course they didn't overweight me, so I've never needed more than a squirt or two of air at a time. We changed depth a lot swimming over the reef and I couldn't quite keep up with pumping and dumping so much air, and the stress and finning up and down was making me breathe harder. When we did our safety stop over a sandy bottom at 10 ft. I struggled to vent my BCD, because of course the air didn't want to come out very fast when I was horizontal but I was this close to popping my head or feet up if I got vertical. I was trying to use the dump valve on the bottom right side while finning head-down, but he insisted on "helping" me get head-up and using my shoulder valve. Whatever, I'm sure I looked like I was totally failing at life in that moment and can't fault him for wanting to intervene.

For the second dive, I told him I wanted less weight; that's when he told me he'd slipped another 4 lbs. in my trim pocket and said I should now try 20, which was what I thought I'd had before! I did, and it was still too much. It ended up being this whole bizarre confrontation the next day when he tried to deny that he'd ever said he'd added more weight behind my back, then admitted it but insisted it didn't matter because none of the weights were true anyway, and got super defensive saying he's never had this problem with anyone else before. I was about to just bail on my last day of diving because I didn't trust this dude, when he apologized and promised not to do it again, and to give me exactly the 18 lbs. I wanted.

Sometimes I wish I'd found a way to get into diving sooner, for obvious reasons. Other times, like now, I'm glad I waited till I was 35 and had used up all the f***s I had to give in these kinds of situations. Ten or fifteen years ago, I might have let this guy push me around and gaslight me. I would have had somewhere between a stressful and a miserable experience, possibly injuring myself, for fear of being the only person to ever give him such a hard time. Now I feel like, if I really am the only person who hasn't gone along with his BS, I've done a public service.
 
Given how you handled that dude and your assessment of your underwater trim is indicating you have the right head for diving. I recommend an 8mm integrated hood wetsuit for Socal diving, it will keep you warm except on the coldest days. I beach dive most weekends in Laguna, give me a PM at darkthirtydivers@gmail.com if you want to go out with us sometime.
 
I ended up going to Cabo after all, but I will definitely keep everyone's great suggestions in mind for my next trip! I went with Cabo because there was a very cheap ($250 round-trip) flight with the exact departure and return times I wanted, which I didn't have for any of the other places I looked at. I also found a dive hostel for $22/night, which made the whole trip logistically very easy and economical.

The diving was pretty good, to my easily-impressed newbie mind. I got up real close to a bunch of sea lions, which was freaking adorable. Decent number and variety of other critters too. Visibility was fine, not amazing, maybe 20 feet? I'm still learning how to judge that. Water was in the low 70s, a little warmer than it ever gets here in LA so quite pleasant to me. I managed 7 dives over 3 days with a comfortable margin for flying home on the 4th day. My total dive count is still so low that I seem to be having at least one "first" with every dive, and my skills are noticeably better and my confidence is up since before I went on this trip. So, all in all, it was what I was looking for.

Would I go back? Maybe. The dive hostel was an interesting experience. I kind of knew what to expect as far as the facilities. I've stayed in plenty of hostels before, though not since my twenties. I hoped since this one was geared toward divers, the guests would skew a bit older. I was right; the other guests all seemed to be in their thirties too, so I wasn't that weird old person at the hostel I used to side-eye.

The guy who runs it, though, is a bit of an odd duck. He insists the water there is saltier than anywhere else on earth except the Dead Sea, and therefore tries to get everyone wearing 5-10 lbs. of extra lead. (He arranges equipment rentals and boat dives for guests at an extra charge.) He told me I'd need 20 lbs; I told him no, I use 20 lbs. when I dive with a 7mm, and he had me in a 5mm. He insisted I try it, and besides, he only had 4 and 5 lb. weights, so I'd have to go all the way down to 16 lbs. if I wanted less. That seemed like it might not be enough, so I agreed to try the 20 lbs. I did a bouyancy check in the water and sank to a little below eye level while holding a normal breath, so I figured I was a little overweighted but didn't think taking off 4 lbs. would be a good idea.

But he thought I needed even more weight. I told him no, I was fine. He wanted some more weight on his tank, so he asked me to turn around so he could demonstrate to the other diver in our group (who was training to be a DM) how to put the weight on his tank strap so she could do it for him. Apparently he took this opportunity to add another 4 lbs. he thought I needed to my gear, though he didn't tell me this until later.

When I deflated my BCD I sank like a stone and immediately resolved to try 16 lbs. on the second dive. I struggled to get off the bottom; even in my OW course they didn't overweight me, so I've never needed more than a squirt or two of air at a time. We changed depth a lot swimming over the reef and I couldn't quite keep up with pumping and dumping so much air, and the stress and finning up and down was making me breathe harder. When we did our safety stop over a sandy bottom at 10 ft. I struggled to vent my BCD, because of course the air didn't want to come out very fast when I was horizontal but I was this close to popping my head or feet up if I got vertical. I was trying to use the dump valve on the bottom right side while finning head-down, but he insisted on "helping" me get head-up and using my shoulder valve. Whatever, I'm sure I looked like I was totally failing at life in that moment and can't fault him for wanting to intervene.

For the second dive, I told him I wanted less weight; that's when he told me he'd slipped another 4 lbs. in my trim pocket and said I should now try 20, which was what I thought I'd had before! I did, and it was still too much. It ended up being this whole bizarre confrontation the next day when he tried to deny that he'd ever said he'd added more weight behind my back, then admitted it but insisted it didn't matter because none of the weights were true anyway, and got super defensive saying he's never had this problem with anyone else before. I was about to just bail on my last day of diving because I didn't trust this dude, when he apologized and promised not to do it again, and to give me exactly the 18 lbs. I wanted.

Sometimes I wish I'd found a way to get into diving sooner, for obvious reasons. Other times, like now, I'm glad I waited till I was 35 and had used up all the f***s I had to give in these kinds of situations. Ten or fifteen years ago, I might have let this guy push me around and gaslight me. I would have had somewhere between a stressful and a miserable experience, possibly injuring myself, for fear of being the only person to ever give him such a hard time. Now I feel like, if I really am the only person who hasn't gone along with his BS, I've done a public service.
Thanks for following up and sharing your decision and experience with us. Glad you got some diving in and enjoyed it, in spite of the issues with the guys that runs the shop. Keep on diving!
 
I ended up going to Cabo after all, but I will definitely keep everyone's great suggestions in mind for my next trip! I went with Cabo because there was a very cheap ($250 round-trip) flight with the exact departure and return times I wanted, which I didn't have for any of the other places I looked at. I also found a dive hostel for $22/night, which made the whole trip logistically very easy and economical.

The diving was pretty good, to my easily-impressed newbie mind. I got up real close to a bunch of sea lions, which was freaking adorable. Decent number and variety of other critters too. Visibility was fine, not amazing, maybe 20 feet? I'm still learning how to judge that. Water was in the low 70s, a little warmer than it ever gets here in LA so quite pleasant to me. I managed 7 dives over 3 days with a comfortable margin for flying home on the 4th day. My total dive count is still so low that I seem to be having at least one "first" with every dive, and my skills are noticeably better and my confidence is up since before I went on this trip. So, all in all, it was what I was looking for.

Would I go back? Maybe. The dive hostel was an interesting experience. I kind of knew what to expect as far as the facilities. I've stayed in plenty of hostels before, though not since my twenties. I hoped since this one was geared toward divers, the guests would skew a bit older. I was right; the other guests all seemed to be in their thirties too, so I wasn't that weird old person at the hostel I used to side-eye.

The guy who runs it, though, is a bit of an odd duck. He insists the water there is saltier than anywhere else on earth except the Dead Sea, and therefore tries to get everyone wearing 5-10 lbs. of extra lead. (He arranges equipment rentals and boat dives for guests at an extra charge.) He told me I'd need 20 lbs; I told him no, I use 20 lbs. when I dive with a 7mm, and he had me in a 5mm. He insisted I try it, and besides, he only had 4 and 5 lb. weights, so I'd have to go all the way down to 16 lbs. if I wanted less. That seemed like it might not be enough, so I agreed to try the 20 lbs. I did a bouyancy check in the water and sank to a little below eye level while holding a normal breath, so I figured I was a little overweighted but didn't think taking off 4 lbs. would be a good idea.

But he thought I needed even more weight. I told him no, I was fine. He wanted some more weight on his tank, so he asked me to turn around so he could demonstrate to the other diver in our group (who was training to be a DM) how to put the weight on his tank strap so she could do it for him. Apparently he took this opportunity to add another 4 lbs. he thought I needed to my gear, though he didn't tell me this until later.

When I deflated my BCD I sank like a stone and immediately resolved to try 16 lbs. on the second dive. I struggled to get off the bottom; even in my OW course they didn't overweight me, so I've never needed more than a squirt or two of air at a time. We changed depth a lot swimming over the reef and I couldn't quite keep up with pumping and dumping so much air, and the stress and finning up and down was making me breathe harder. When we did our safety stop over a sandy bottom at 10 ft. I struggled to vent my BCD, because of course the air didn't want to come out very fast when I was horizontal but I was this close to popping my head or feet up if I got vertical. I was trying to use the dump valve on the bottom right side while finning head-down, but he insisted on "helping" me get head-up and using my shoulder valve. Whatever, I'm sure I looked like I was totally failing at life in that moment and can't fault him for wanting to intervene.

For the second dive, I told him I wanted less weight; that's when he told me he'd slipped another 4 lbs. in my trim pocket and said I should now try 20, which was what I thought I'd had before! I did, and it was still too much. It ended up being this whole bizarre confrontation the next day when he tried to deny that he'd ever said he'd added more weight behind my back, then admitted it but insisted it didn't matter because none of the weights were true anyway, and got super defensive saying he's never had this problem with anyone else before. I was about to just bail on my last day of diving because I didn't trust this dude, when he apologized and promised not to do it again, and to give me exactly the 18 lbs. I wanted.

Sometimes I wish I'd found a way to get into diving sooner, for obvious reasons. Other times, like now, I'm glad I waited till I was 35 and had used up all the f***s I had to give in these kinds of situations. Ten or fifteen years ago, I might have let this guy push me around and gaslight me. I would have had somewhere between a stressful and a miserable experience, possibly injuring myself, for fear of being the only person to ever give him such a hard time. Now I feel like, if I really am the only person who hasn't gone along with his BS, I've done a public service.

Thank you for sharing and I am glad that you stood up to that guy because his actions were atrocious and unsafe!

Since you are in LA I wanted to call your attention to the excellent Santa Barbara trip report for the Truth Aquatics liveaboard by @drrich2, see the link below:
Truth Aquatics Aug. 2016 Trip Report - California

It isn't warm water but it looks interesting, reasonably priced, and with good diving. You seem quite capable and independent for a new diver, and it could help to expand your dive count and raise your level of expertise.

For more distant but warmer-water diving, you might look into a Bahamas liveaboard like Blackbeards, the Cat Ppalu, or the Juliet. Of these I have only experienced Blackbeards and it is a best described as "camping at sea" but the price is quite reasonable, especially if you can find a good airfare to Nassau.

Bahamas diving isn't the best IMO but there are sharks and it will be warmer than California diving.

And I think you previously mentioned that you had dived Cozumel? If that is easy and economical for you then it would be a great option for a repeat trip.

Good luck to you!
 
He told me I'd need 20 lbs; I told him no, I use 20 lbs. when I dive with a 7mm, and he had me in a 5mm. He insisted I try it, and besides, he only had 4 and 5 lb. weights, so I'd have to go all the way down to 16 lbs. if I wanted less. That seemed like it might not be enough, so I agreed to try the 20 lbs. I did a bouyancy check in the water and sank to a little below eye level while holding a normal breath, so I figured I was a little overweighted but didn't think taking off 4 lbs. would be a good idea.

He couldn't give you 18 lbs... two fives and two fours? Did it have to be all fives or all fours? Just curious...

Regardless, thanks for the report. Always nice to see an in depth report from new divers that are dedicated to learning what they need to know to become experienced divers.
 
Since you are in LA I wanted to call your attention to the excellent Santa Barbara trip report for the Truth Aquatics liveaboard by @drrich2, see the link below:
Truth Aquatics Aug. 2016 Trip Report - California

It isn't warm water but it looks interesting, reasonably priced, and with good diving. You seem quite capable and independent for a new diver, and it could help to expand your dive count and raise your level of expertise.

Several boats similar to the Truth Aquatics boats also leave from Ventura Harbor for the crossing to Anacapa and the islands beyond. The drive from LA to Ventura is a little shorter than from LA to Santa Barbara (about 30 minutes less?). And a real advantage to the Ventura-Anacapa trip versus the Long Beach-Catalina trip is the crossing time: around 1.25 hrs for Ventura-Anacapa, but 2.25 hrs for Long Beach-Catalina. Driving to Ventura (instead of Long Beach) means an extra hour on the road each way (roughly), but an hour less each way on the boat in the crossing.
 
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