Current Status of Fill Station Owned/Operated by Stathis

[ReefHound]

Ok, I was told this on a dive boat, so it has to be true: "Running out of BT, get an Oceanic."

If you hear one thing on a dive boat and read another thing on the internet, which one is truer?

 

[cvchief]

If you hear one thing on a dive boat and read another thing on the internet, which one is truer?

Yea of little paying attention, I post what I heard on the boat AND a 17 year old thread off the internet, so it must be true.

On the issue of safety, I was diving with DD and my nephew in Coz once. DD wanted to give me a mild critique of our buddy system after a dive.

(Start gravelly voice) "I see you and your nephew are 'same ocean divers'" (end gravelly voice) Apparently our degree of separation during the dive was a little large.

And now I find his has an Oceanic..... ‍♂

 

[gopbroek]

It should be obvious that we are just being silly. Gary knows you shouldn't start fresh with a new computer if you lock out your first one - you simply take out the batteries in the first one for a few minutes.

Simplest solution is to use a shearwater, it has no violation mode It's your computer, not your nanny. In my honest opinion nanny mode computers have encouraged divers into making dangerous decisions.

 

[cvchief]

Simplest solution is to use a shearwater, it has no violation mode It's your computer, not your nanny. In my honest opinion nanny mode computers have encouraged divers into making dangerous decisions.

Holy cow. For that it better come with Siri....

 

[BRT]

First, HOLY COW, you dive an lax old Oceanic? No wonder you think air is ok. You CLEARLY should be diving a Suunto. I cant believe you have Sat radio beacon thingy and dive an Oceanic.

Second, NO. My wrist computer is always set to what I am diving. I guess if I watched O2 sat on the 36 I could set it to air, but no. The second computer is set to 36 because I never remember how to change it. Darn scubapro computer. Like two buttons and imagine a wheel, etc etc. I just never look the instruction up before going diving.



Exactly. Or a conservative computer, ie NOT an Oceanic....



Well back on the air 100s I was known to dive with my arm pointing up. Figured keeping the computer 1-1.5 feet higher had to buy me a little BT.



Really?



I was depending on you to prove this with science and all. Thanks for the let down. I was seeing a whole new shots before dives for extra protection. Like a nice add on on the boat.



Two sketchy liberal Oceanics....



Oh I like the way you think. That only like 3% above the overfill margin. Just keep it outta the sun and all.

13%. I just got done lowering the pressure level on my two LP95's. Just to be safe I took them in the water and lowered the pressure from 3700 down to about 1700. Temperature in the truck before this safety operation was not much more than 100 deg.

 

[gopbroek]

Holy cow. For that it better come with Siri....

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Price is a wash with Oceanic's since you don't need an even day / odd day set

 

[ReefHound]

Holy cow. For that it better come with Siri....

Shearwaters aren't cheap but I've yet to encounter an owner that doesn't claim it to be their best dive computer ever. Shearwater fans are even more devout than Apple fans.

 

[DandyDon]

First, HOLY COW, you dive an lax old Oceanic? No wonder you think air is ok. You CLEARLY should be diving a Suunto. I cant believe you have Sat radio beacon thingy and dive an Oceanic.

I do not think that I know more about diving theory than the training agencies or DAN, not do I think that Suunto does, so I feel perfectly safe diving Oceanics - which give similar results as Padi dive tables. Suuntos are a marketing gimmick based on so called "safer diving" thru penalizing bottom time erroneously - no science or medical theory involved. They probably even use three word chants at rallies, but I am guessing there.

Decompression sickness hits are rare. We know that they happen even rarely because of the thousands of dives done, but reasons are varied, often not really known (so chamber doctors make up claims to make themselves look like specialists; they know how to treat hits, but not much about diving exactly), and diving Padi tables or Oceanic computers do nothing dangerous. Many buy the marketing claims tho, like you.

Second, NO. My wrist computer is always set to what I am diving. I guess if I watched O2 sat on the 36 I could set it to air, but no. The second computer is set to 36 because I never remember how to change it. Darn scubapro computer. Like two buttons and imagine a wheel, etc etc. I just never look the instruction up before going diving.

I thought you told me you dove nitrox with computer set on air based on the false theory of it being safer. Now I understand differently: You dive your wrist computer and often on nitrox to get longer bottom times, and that's what nitrox is for. Your second computer is worthless since you don't know how to set it.

Oceanic computers have 4 levels of conservatism from quite liberal to very conservative, DSAT, PZ+, DSAT with conservatism, PZ+ with conservatism. Even the old Oceanics have the two DSAT settings. Many people don't know very much about their dive computer(s), that's a large part of the problem.

Mine may be older than your knowledge, as I'm pretty sure mine don't. I agree that knowing how to work your computer is important, and I do mine. In my more aggressive diving days over a decade ago, we'd commonly go into deco diving 32% on NC wrecks as long as we cleared okay before surfacing. I had an incident once long ago when I had to beg shared gas on the hang line until I cleared. I fixed the reg problem and adopted more careful attitudes.

I do like to see my puters clear the yellow zone to green before leaving the safety stop, and that's never been a problem other than when I've entered deco. Then I get as close as I can with deep stops, long safety stops, followed by a minimum one minute effortless float on the surface before thinking about any ladders.

On the issue of safety, I was diving with DD and my nephew in Coz once. DD wanted to give me a mild critique of our buddy system after a dive.

(Start gravelly voice) "I see you and your nephew are 'same ocean divers'" (end gravelly voice) Apparently our degree of separation during the dive was a little large.

Yeah, your demonstrated buddy protocols are lacking. When my home dive bud traveled with me, I had a standing promise to his mom to bring him home alive, and I had an aggressive attitude about real buddy diving and taking care of each other. We had more than one ass chewing debriefings. Then she & I both outlived him when his bypass surgery went bad.

Shearwaters aren't cheap but I've yet to encounter an owner that doesn't claim it to be their best dive computer ever. Shearwater fans are even more devout than Apple fans.

Do they have three word chants at rallies?

 

[ReefHound]

Do they have three word chants at rallies?

Grumpy old Don! Grumpy old Don! Grumpy old Don!

 

[BRT]

Shearwaters aren't cheap but I've yet to encounter an owner that doesn't claim it to be their best dive computer ever. Shearwater fans are even more devout than Apple fans.

And since they don't quit working if you ignore them you can just save up all your decompression and do it the week after vacation.