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Opening Of Indonesia pushed to end of 2020?

Discussion in 'Indonesia' started by GirlonFire, Aug 16, 2020.

  1. scubaNYC16

    scubaNYC16 ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Has there been any official policy released regarding no tourists this year? So far it’s just media reports and statements from different ministers.
     
  2. Indah

    Indah Manta Ray

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    The regulation is that there are no visa for tourist until further notice. At this Facebook page you always can find the latest updates.
     

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  3. Indah

    Indah Manta Ray

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    Would it be a problem for you if you would not be covered by any travel insurance?
     
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  4. DownUnderwater Dan

    DownUnderwater Dan Barracuda

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    The key to living with the virus? Less accurate tests

    The problem is the PCR tests pick up traces of the coronavirus whether it is active or dead. When it is active, you care. When it is dead, you don’t. A dead virus is not contagious, so you don’t need to isolate the person involved.

    It was always clear that isolating people for 14 days if they are not infectious is a costly exercise – in both economic and human terms. But we have learnt throughout the pandemic how easily contact-tracing systems can become overwhelmed. Sending contact tracers on wild goose chases, tracking down the contacts of people who are not, in fact, infectious is a huge waste of one of our scarcest resources.



    IMO, if there's a shift from populist political covid policies around the world, this will be the key for a return to normal travel. I hope Indonesia starts looking for a return soon
     
  5. DownUnderwater Dan

    DownUnderwater Dan Barracuda

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  6. SeaWarden

    SeaWarden Nassau Grouper

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    Umm.. Anti-bodies test does essentially that.. Once there are anti bodies in the blood, means you are no longer infected then it gives u results.
     
  7. Indah

    Indah Manta Ray

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    Are you sure about that? Or maybe I understand you wrong. I think you can be infected and infect others while already having antibodies. This is how the rapid tests work. But they can show negative while you are infected and can transmit the virus. Or positive after you fully recovered.
     
  8. DownUnderwater Dan

    DownUnderwater Dan Barracuda

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    Umm... there's no definitive evidence that having antibodies prevents reinfection or spreading to others. Some actively infected asymptomatic produce no detectable covid antibodies.

    So why do the vast majority of covid infected already have some kind of protection, something resembling close to a level of "immunity"?
    Could it be possible that people's pre-exposure to other coronaviruses help them to cope with covid? That's the emerging general consensus of the top immunologists in the world
     
  9. SeaWarden

    SeaWarden Nassau Grouper

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    Apologies. Anti-bodies doesn't mean that they are no longer contingent. It does mean you have had the virus at some point in time.
     
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  10. DownUnderwater Dan

    DownUnderwater Dan Barracuda

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