H2Andy:when was the last time anyone saw DIR, panty hose, and service revolvers in the same thread?
you know... it'd probably make one heck of a movie
Hm.. last week?
Is this a trick question?
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H2Andy:when was the last time anyone saw DIR, panty hose, and service revolvers in the same thread?
you know... it'd probably make one heck of a movie
H2Andy:you know... it'd probably make one heck of a movie
dsgobie:Because I don't have to. And I like to think for myself.
Zippsy:The question I have to the non-DIR divers is why haven't YOU taken up DIR?
3dent:I actually made it to the end of the thread in one sitting! Despite equipment side issues, CPR dogs, great legs... Definately need to get a life...
Reasons I won't do DIR:
1. Posts on this board. Maybe they're a vocal minority (I'm not convinced), but that minority has put me off to the extent that I judge the whole group. I was familiar with horgarthian, but my first experience with DIR was right here. How many times have I seen someone post a legit question about "What's the best...?" and a DIR type replies with "You don't need it," or "throw it away." If it's not DIR than NO ONE should ever consider it.
2. I like to read, research, learn, and play. I like to have the option of using the latest and greatest. Maybe GUE can keep up with change now (which I doubt) but the bigger they get, the slower they will accept change. I predict that their last words will be, "we've never done it that way before."
3. I like to read, research, learn, and play. Thanks to some bad experiences with instructors, I'm primarily self-educated in SCUBA. I don't trust the GUE's attitude of "the book is an intro, the instructors will give you the rest." What if the instructor is a moron?
4. I like to read, research, learn, and play. My rig is changing as I learn and grow. I don't want it dictated to me. I like the challenge of figuring out for myself what suits me best. As I read about DIR, maybe I'll someday I'll end up somewhat hogarthian. Who knows? I study solo diving, as well, but probably won't end up a solo diver, either.
5. It's not a gear configuration, it's a lifestyle. I already have a lifestyle, I don't need yours.
I would also ask, Does is make you less of a diver? Just because a gadget doesn't make you a better diver doesn't mean that it is wrong. How do you know it won't benefit you if you don't try it. If someone wants to try something out, I don't see the problem. If it doesn't add the expected benefit they will quit using it. OTOH they might find it helpful and continue to use it. Either way, if they want to spend their money on it then what's the problem. If trying a few gadgets out helps them learn, then all the better. I think the DIR trainig would probably produce better divers overall. I can't fault them for their improved skills and in most cases they are probably safer divers. I just think they shouldn't look down their noses at those who are less experienced and want to try some other options. It's the "you're all going to kill yourself because your not DIR attitude" that some DIR trained divers exhibit that I don't appreciate. Yes, there are a number of gadgets that if you think about it long enough you can figure out that it won't be that useful. But it doesn't mean it was wrong for someone to try it.detroit diver:First of all, your LDS can probably see you coming a mile away. See above answer. Secondly, DIR changes when things are deemed to be NECESSARY. If it's not necessary, we don't use it. Can't be more simple than that. You like gadgets (the lastest and the greatest). But does that make you a better diver?
spiderman:I would also ask, Does is make you less of a diver? Just because a gadget doesn't make you a better diver doesn't mean that it is wrong. How do you know it won't benefit you if you don't try it. If someone wants to try something out, I don't see the problem. If it doesn't add the expected benefit they will quit using it. OTOH they might find it helpful and continue to use it. Either way, if they want to spend their money on it then what's the problem. If trying a few gadgets out helps them learn, then all the better. I think the DIR trainig would probably produce better divers overall. I can't fault them for their improved skills and in most cases they are probably safer divers. I just think they shouldn't look down their noses at those who are less experienced and want to try some other options. It's the "you're all going to kill yourself because your not DIR attitude" that some DIR trained divers exhibit that I don't appreciate. Yes, there are a number of gadgets that if you think about it long enough you can figure out that it won't be that useful. But it doesn't mean it was wrong for someone to try it.