Her First Dive Didn't Go so Well

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Tell me how by catching something with a hook, this something can be released completely unharmed.

It's also well known amongst divers that sea creatures have a layer of mucus on their skin and by touching them, we might remove it and expose them to sickness and parasites.
I know, it's only one time. It's only one time for you, what about all the others? What about setting an example?
And I doubt wearing gloves unable the process.

I don't know everything about every living things on earth, but I'm not convinced that handling anything that has nothing to do being handled it's that good for the animal.
For me, if it doesn't need care, if it's wild, it doesn't need to pick picked up. We want to pick them up for our own interest, not for their interest.
We can observe, as much as we want though...

I guess it's my previous job talking, I was a vet nurse before becoming a dive instructor ^_^
 
Tell me how by catching something with a hook, this something can be released completely unharmed.

It's also well known amongst divers that sea creatures have a layer of mucus on their skin and by touching them, we might remove it and expose them to sickness and parasites.
I know, it's only one time. It's only one time for you, what about all the others? What about setting an example?
And I doubt wearing gloves unable the process.

I don't know everything about every living things on earth, but I'm not convinced that handling anything that has nothing to do being handled it's that good for the animal.
For me, if it doesn't need care, if it's wild, it doesn't need to pick picked up. We want to pick them up for our own interest, not for their interest.
We can observe, as much as we want though...

I guess it's my previous job talking, I was a vet nurse before becoming a dive instructor ^_^

Our state government actively promotes the activity of hook and line fishing. If you are one of those people that eats no fish or meat and you hate hook and line fishing, then I guess you can complain.
 
Today I took my 15 yr old daughter out for her first scuba lesson. We have never tried in the pool, but this was a shallow spot under the Blue Heron Bridge and she is a good snorkeler. We got in shallow water and she had the accelerated lessons.. 3 minutes to clear the mask. I minute to breath w/o mask. 2 minutes to learn to buddy breathe with no mask and a quick discussion and demo of the buttons on the BC.

We’ve also talked about Pressure varies inversely to volume, air spaces, equalization etc. She is wearing her brother’s BP/W, and wetsuit and weight belt. He is snorkeling above us pulling the dive flag.

Visibility is excellent maybe 40 feet and there are a lot of moon jellies. They are mostly on the top 2-3 feet, but some are deeper. We head out and are maybe 100 yrds from the beach and see lots of pretty fish. She has better eyes and is pointing out tiny flounder, a pipe fish etc. I decide it is time to practice scuba removal and do a little snorkeling,.

So I drop my tank on the bottom and we go up and she inflates BC and removes and I dump the BC and set her rig on the bottom, near my tank.


We snorkel for a few minutes but the jelly fish make it no fun. We are getting stung a little and it takes a lot of concentration to dodge them. Little invisible tentacles are drifting and stinging as well. Neither of us have hoods on.

So I snorkel to the bottom in like 18 feet and get her tank and bring it up and she puts it on, I let her descend as I watch from the surface and then swim down and grab my tank. In the few moments as I flip the tank over my head (and my attention is diverted from her) .. .. she takes one.. a large jelly drifting in the current completely covers her face and wraps up in her hair. My son saw it from the surface and he dove down and ripped it off her face. I pop my tank on and she is rubbing her neck and frantically gives the thumbs up. Obviously, I should have paid better attention.

I have explained to her a bunch during lecture time that the instinct to run to the surface is perfectly natural and is expected, but we do not do that and we have also talked about how it is natural to take a big breath, hold it in and shoot for the top.

We have also had significant talks about how the thumbs up means we go up, and I will NOT try to keep her or anyone down…

Except now is NOT the time to go up. The surface is covered with jellyfish (they seem to drift by in clouds, where they are clumped together). I weigh my options and figure it is better to take her to the surface than try to deny her the ability to ascend. So we go up.

We get to the surface, I inflate her BC and she is crying and puts the mask on her forehead. Her neck is bad, there are already raised welts in large areas and the skin is discolored. DAMN! I am NOT in control of the situation. There is no immediate exit or anyone that can help. She is upset and close to panic. I quickly explain that we will get stung more if we try to swim back on the surface and it will be much better to use the tanks and swim on the bottom. She agrees and we drop down to the bottom and swim back without a problem.

We got some vinegar sprayed on her from the lifeguard and the welts went down pretty fast.

Kinda a bummer of a dive, but it was really an excellent training dive. We got a demonstration about the instinct to run for the surface, a demonstration that if she gives me the thumbs up, I will take her up and also a VERY good lesson that the surface may NOT be the best place to be. She learned that she can cry all she wants in her mask and regulator and she will survive. She learned that she can continue to dive while in pain and upset. We spent a good bit of time talking about all this stuff. I wish I had paid a little more attention to her and the jellyfish.

Bummer my gopro was dead.

Wait!?! Are you telling us that...

...she put her mask on her forehead?

I thought that was never done by a diver in distress? Doesn't she know that MOF is a universal sign that everything is A-OK?

What the **** are you teaching that kid?

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Wait!?! Are you telling us that...

...she put her mask on her forehead?

I thought that was never done by a diver in distress? Doesn't she know that MOF is a universal sign that everything is A-OK?

What the **** are you teaching that kid?

:d

Isn't mask on forehead a sign of distress? It was definitely taught in my OW class as a distress signal. If we wanted to take our mask off our eyes we were instructed to wear it backwards to make sure we didnt alert the boat we were in trouble.
 
Isn't mask on forehead a sign of distress? It was definitely taught in my OW class as a distress signal. If we wanted to take our mask off our eyes we were instructed to wear it backwards to make sure we didnt alert the boat we were in trouble.

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PS - ScubaBoard really needs a sarcasm font.
 
I figured I might as well update this thread with Dive No. 4 Video. Didn't do any skills other than mask clear and tank removal and weightbelt remove and replace.

And I made her carry the reel and floatline for part of the dive and we avoided tangles. We got separated by about 40 feet, I stopped for the Eagle ray and yelled to her but she didn't hear and moved on. It was a good lesson for her to do more checking over her shoulder. I was aware of where she was and where she was going and then I kinda hid behind a pole to see her reaction and if she would know to back track. She responded like I hoped she would.

Mostly filmed "small stuff"... Next dive; we add the pony bottle to her rig.

[video=youtube;had5M0gK29s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=had5M0gK29s&feature=share&list=UU1utDku8vJ RJYgBZImLyLJQ[/video]
 
I had to stop the video when you picked up the eel. I do think it's sad that your daughter is learning that it's okay to molest and stress underwater life.
 
I had to stop the video when you picked up the eel. I do think it's sad that your daughter is learning that it's okay to molest and stress underwater life.

Well I know you said you don't like watching videos of spearing fish, but this one is a little tamer. It was interesting, when the eel began to really "try" to get away, I released it. It immediately went under a rock and poked his head out in a few moments and was eating and chewing up, some prey item. I failed to aim the camera right to capture it well (but you can sorta see it), The interaction was not intense or disruptive enough to cause it to stop actively hunting and feeding for even 10 seconds.
 
I am totally not tracking with why DD is posting or sharing any of this, except as a troll/attention getter. From the mini-training, to the animals, it all goes against what I would consider common sense/good practices. I dunno, maybe I've drank too much of the training agency/environmentalist koolaid...
 
I had to stop the video when you picked up the eel. I do think it's sad that your daughter is learning that it's okay to molest and stress underwater life.

There can be big differences between interacting, touching, molesting, and stressing UW life. Or, depending on the nature of the animal, there may be little difference. For example, our mere presence UW may stress some creatures (like sharks) enough to make them interrupt their activity and leave the area. OTOH, with creatures like a sharp tail eel; they seem to be rather ambivalent to our interactions with them to the point where even feeding activities may resume immediately.
 
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