Is Cuba worth it
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Robert H. Diver
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James Draker dove some caves in Russia a few years ago - not a cave diver myself but the pics looked bland as compared to other caves - but hey, he can say he dove in Russia!!
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I was not going to say another word on this post however... I did feel the need to clarify a few things.
1. Although Batista was a brutal dictator, as long as you were not anti-govt, you were free. Not just select people - everyone was free. Free to have a business, get an education, pray. Of course there were shakedowns, the American Mafia owned Havana and Batista.
2. Some of you made assumptions about me and some highly inappropriate and very incorrect remarks - and most of you have no idea what it was like to have grown up in a family who was basically stolen from, father slated for execution, then jailed in a concentration camp, tortured and exiled, in complete humilation on the way out. The truth of ther matter is that my dad was fighting against Castro under the direction of the CIA.
3. Your claims of "traveling to Cuba for humanitarian purposes" are laughable at best. The fact is, if Cuba did not have great diving, it would be looked at no better than Haiti, Dominican or some slum of a country... I am sure Haiti, Dominican, Jamaica, even way over in Africa - Somalia need people like you to go on humanitarian trips, but I dont see anyone signing up for it. In fact, in the other thread, Haiti was the #1 destination people said they'd avoid.
Lastly, this article sums it up perfect as to why we should all avoid travel to Cuba... Bottom line... Don't fund communism.
Sen. Rick Scott to Travel Advisors: Don’t Allow Tourism to Fund the Communist Cuban Regime
Now I am done.
1. Although Batista was a brutal dictator, as long as you were not anti-govt, you were free. Not just select people - everyone was free. Free to have a business, get an education, pray. Of course there were shakedowns, the American Mafia owned Havana and Batista.
2. Some of you made assumptions about me and some highly inappropriate and very incorrect remarks - and most of you have no idea what it was like to have grown up in a family who was basically stolen from, father slated for execution, then jailed in a concentration camp, tortured and exiled, in complete humilation on the way out. The truth of ther matter is that my dad was fighting against Castro under the direction of the CIA.
3. Your claims of "traveling to Cuba for humanitarian purposes" are laughable at best. The fact is, if Cuba did not have great diving, it would be looked at no better than Haiti, Dominican or some slum of a country... I am sure Haiti, Dominican, Jamaica, even way over in Africa - Somalia need people like you to go on humanitarian trips, but I dont see anyone signing up for it. In fact, in the other thread, Haiti was the #1 destination people said they'd avoid.
Lastly, this article sums it up perfect as to why we should all avoid travel to Cuba... Bottom line... Don't fund communism.
Sen. Rick Scott to Travel Advisors: Don’t Allow Tourism to Fund the Communist Cuban Regime
Now I am done.
Yep, typical of these lovely humanitarian good-doers, selective/convenient humanitarianism.
I can't believe that some are calling sanctions against the brutal socialist regime in Cuba as "immoral" yet they call for embargo against Turkey and Saudi Arabia. I guess Turkey and Saudi deserve these "immoral" sanctions since they are Muslim countries. (Turkey and Saudi Arabia are GREAT dive destinations perhaps they can be spared these "immoral" sanctions but I guess not since they are Muslim countries. No reprieve for these less than Human Muslims I guess)
And you experienced this when? Oh, you didn't. You just heard what your parents told you.
People I have spoken to when I was in Cuba that lived through the revolution described a very different situation. People are also "free" today if they are not anti-govt as you put it. Education? Well, some Cubans were able to get an education that they would not have received under Batista
You need to stop digging in that hole you are standing in.
Yeah, having been to Cuba, I have to disagree with that. There is some diving, but way below the potential. Dominican, as in Dominican Republic? Been there too. What's the issue with that country? Have you been? Or is your comment based on hearsay.
Yeah, I'm going to listen to a Florida politician pandering to the children of rich Cubans who lost their assets in Cuba. "Illegitimate" regime, eh? My, how selective that term is applied.
On top of that, we have someone in the peanut gallery with a complete lack of reading comprehension resorting to accusations of Islamophobia. That's rich.
EDIT: I did read this in the letter (what an over the top letter btw): It is an indisputable fact that nearly all commerce, especially tourism,
directly benefits the regime and its military, not the people. Tell me you've never been to Cuba without telling me you've never been to Cuba. The cash I handed to the Cuban people who provided goods and services to me benefited them 100%. You think they paid taxes on that money? Give me a break.
I'd go to dive Cuba before I'd go to Florida now.
Florida has decided that hate is good and should be taught and practiced often. People need to be kept illiterate and ignorant of history and facts. Women should have no control over their bodies and that what they do and decisions they make should be made by old pale men and stepford wives based on a book of fairy tales.
I'd never go to Saudi Arabia. With their hate for minorities, women's rights, and a brutal dictator that has journalists killed and dismembered.
Turkey is run by a dictator who is on the verge of declaring martial law if the election doesn't go his way. And he's blocking a valuable potential NATO ally because they will not hand over people he doesn't like to be killed and tortured.
Any country that tells a woman how she can dress, who she can go out of the house with and when, where she can work or go to school and with who is a country run by misogynistic cowards who are living in the stone age and that need to have a serious attitude adjustment.
Any country that tells someone who they can love as adults using a book of fairy tales as justification is led by ignorance and hate.
And now that seems to include Israel. It's becoming another Taliban like state with the practices of hate that it's current government is unashamedly showing to the world.
Florida has decided that hate is good and should be taught and practiced often. People need to be kept illiterate and ignorant of history and facts. Women should have no control over their bodies and that what they do and decisions they make should be made by old pale men and stepford wives based on a book of fairy tales.
I'd never go to Saudi Arabia. With their hate for minorities, women's rights, and a brutal dictator that has journalists killed and dismembered.
Turkey is run by a dictator who is on the verge of declaring martial law if the election doesn't go his way. And he's blocking a valuable potential NATO ally because they will not hand over people he doesn't like to be killed and tortured.
Any country that tells a woman how she can dress, who she can go out of the house with and when, where she can work or go to school and with who is a country run by misogynistic cowards who are living in the stone age and that need to have a serious attitude adjustment.
Any country that tells someone who they can love as adults using a book of fairy tales as justification is led by ignorance and hate.
And now that seems to include Israel. It's becoming another Taliban like state with the practices of hate that it's current government is unashamedly showing to the world.
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