Fundies kicked my a$$

[Cave Diver]

Dude, buy a dog or something. IJS...

What have you got against dogs?

 

[Mossman]

There was no threat. Bob stated true and verifiable fact. This is something you know nothing of obviously.

A thinly veiled threat is a threat nonetheless. How do you expect someone to respond to a threat. Should I roll over and play dead?

Dammit I wasn't gonna do this, but I feel compelled...

Don't worry yourself. Most women find me irresistible.

NOT TRUE. You posted an unsubstantiated rumor that someone DIED due to Aldora's rusty steel tanks. That turned out to be completely false - it turned out to be an incident 12 years ago with one rusty tank, which was appropriately addressed both underwater (the DM obviously was competent enough to quickly respond and save him from what could have been a disaster), and above the water (changing the way they inspect & maintain their steel tanks, and prohibiting shore diving with them). The entire story showed, to me, a very responsible dive op that discovered a problem, and quickly addressed it. 12 years ago. And I could find no reports of a single problem with them since. In 12 years. As far as I'm concerned, case closed.



I strongly resent the implication that my choice to dive with Aldora is in any way comparable to someone diving after drinking alcohol, or violating safe Nitrox diving standards.

I said I had a good memory. I never said I had a great memory. My only purpose in mentioning the two examples I gave was to show someone how it's perfectly OK to give one's opinion on another's diving choices, even if I don't have his permission. I'll state it once again: You'll have an excellent time with Aldora. Personally I won't dive with them again because personally I had a poor experience, even if it was a decade ago. There are too many other dive shops for me to choose from. Why risk a repeat bad experience? YMMV.

Aren't you done entertaining yourself in this thread? For crying out loud, you're in Cozumel. Wouldn't it be way more entertaining to just go diving and leave us alone to have our otherwise pleasant (except for your intrusions) conversation?

Now you want me to go diving after all the drinks I've had today? Are you trying to kill me?
Nope, I'm waiting another half-hour until it's time to go downstairs and meet Michaela, the owner of one of the dive shops using steel tanks that isn't Aldora. At that point, I'll try to find alternative entertainment. In the meantime, you should be proud that you're so entertaining that I'm sitting here on the laptop instead of sitting out in the heat

Btw, I know Pete (NetDoc) too. Dove with him last weekend at Catalina. I can't help but wonder what he'd think if he read this thread. Think he'd find it "entertaining" that you persist in harassing his otherwise peaceful community of divers for no reason other than to entertain yourself?

I'm not doing any harrassing, just stating my opinion of DIR and its fundamentals course. For some reason, your "peaceful community of divers" has become increasingly defensive and outright mean hearted. Surely you can tell the difference between my friendly posts and the posts in response that contain thinly veiled threats and insults?

What have you got against dogs?

I think I just ate one in my hamburguesa. Tasted good.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

Is that a threat you can back up or are you just blowing bubbles? Netdoc is on the island, maybe I'll ask him.

Of course not ... I have no power to do anything except post on ScubaBoard. It's nothing more than an answer to your question ...

If I merely bashed PADI and you wanted to talk to me about it, would you get the same sort of criticism?

If you wish an answer, look around for some posts by a fellow named DCBC ... and note how he was received by the community at large. Note also that he is no longer a member of our community. And since you're "on the island" with Pete ... go ahead and ask him about some of his exchanges with Wayne ... better yet, read them for yourself.

Chronic bashers don't tend to last on ScubaBoard ... for some reason, they wear out their welcome. In your case, I'd say you've done an exemplary job of destroying your own credibility.

As I mentioned before, Dave wasn't working with Aldora when I dove with them. The hoover incident was just one complaint. Have you ever had a DM ask all the divers to hold hands on a swim against an impossible current? I did, with Aldora. You also might want to research their history with steel tanks. Didn't someone die or something because a rusty steel tank had used up all the O2? We also had made plans one day to get our gear so we could shore dive and when I showed up at the shop at the appointed time, they were closed and only opened after I hammered on the door for 10 minutes. The lady who finally let us in didn't speak English and she let us into the "secure" gear storage area unattended. If I weren't such an honest guy, I could have upgrade my gear for free.

Yes, it's ancient history if a decade is ancient, but I have a good memory

Well now ... based on the article LeeAnne posted above, your memory isn't nearly as good as you believe it is ... your statements contradict the article on several points ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[Leejnd]

So...Crush...I'd love to hear your thoughts on what you found the most challenging part of your Fundies class. One of the things that drove me the most crazy was the shooting-the-bag drill. We did it perfectly on the surface, but once we tried it underwater we were fumbling all over the place, getting the line caught in kelp, bumping into each other...watching it on video later was like watching a 3 Stooges episode! It would have been hilarious it it wasn't so humbling. We did manage to pull it off the second time, but that is definitely a skill I need to practice more.

(Oh...darn...you probably stopped reading this thread long ago, when it veered so far off-topic that it might as well have gone to Mars. Well, hopefully we can get back on track now.)

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

So...Crush...I'd love to hear your thoughts on what you found the most challenging part of your Fundies class. One of the things that drove me the most crazy was the shooting-the-bag drill. We did it perfectly on the surface, but once we tried it underwater we were fumbling all over the place, getting the line caught in kelp, bumping into each other...watching it on video later was like watching a 3 Stooges episode! It would have been hilarious it it wasn't so humbling. We did manage to pull it off the second time, but that is definitely a skill I need to practice more.

(Oh...darn...you probably stopped reading this thread long ago, when it veered so far off-topic that it might as well have gone to Mars. Well, hopefully we can get back on track now.)

SMB deployments are fun ... I teach them at the AOW level. It's where I coined the phrase "underwater macrame" ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[Leejnd]

SMB deployments are fun ... I teach them at the AOW level. It's where I coined the phrase "underwater macrame" ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Now that's funny! Is there a different term when you involve kelp in the SMB weaving process? We could have produced a nice handbag with our macrame job.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

Now that's funny! Is there a different term when you involve kelp in the SMB weaving process? We could have produced a nice handbag with our macrame job.

Handling line underwater takes a bit of practice ... one always has to keep a bit of tension on it, otherwise it develops evil tendencies ... :shocked2:

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[Cave Diver]

If you wish an answer, look around for some posts by a fellow named DCBC ... and note how he was received by the community at large. Note also that he is no longer a member of our community. And since you're "on the island" with Pete ... go ahead and ask him about some of his exchanges with Wayne ... better yet, read them for yourself.

Chronic bashers don't tend to last on ScubaBoard ... for some reason, they wear out their welcome. In your case, I'd say you've done an exemplary job of destroying your own credibility.

I feel compelled to note that this comment is a bit inaccurate. DCBC is indeed still a member of our community and posted as recently as last month.

 

[Leejnd]

Handling line underwater takes a bit of practice ... one always has to keep a bit of tension on it, otherwise it develops evil tendencies ... :shocked2:

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Ooh, I like that - let's blame it on the line, and its inherent evil tendencies! Not my inherent lack of coordination! Yes, practice is definitely what I need.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

Ooh, I like that - let's blame it on the line, and its inherent evil tendencies! Not my inherent lack of coordination! Yes, practice is definitely what I need.

As do we all LeeAnne ... I'm one of those people who learns best by making all sorts of dumb mistakes ... just ask anyone who's ever taught me a class ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)