Will DAN cover you if you are not cert as solo diver?

[cool79]

This question has recently came to my mind.

But I am currently going through divemaster training. I did a few solo dive as I was looking for missing diver.

I am wondering, if anything happened to me when I am solo diving, will i be covered by DAN? As I am not certified solo diver.

If I am certified as DM, am I indirectly certified as solo diver? and I am covered by DAN?

 

[Jim Lapenta]

This is different than your other question. If something happens to you diving solo it is likely you will not need DAN. Just a coroner. Divemaster is not a solo cert. Divemaster for the most part doesn't teach you what you need to dive solo. Doesn't really even make you a better diver in many cases.

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[cool79]

This is different than your other question. If something happens to you diving solo it is likely you will not need DAN. Just a coroner. Divemaster is not a solo cert. Divemaster for the most part doesn't teach you what you need to dive solo. Doesn't really even make you a better diver in many cases.

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haha noted.
Think will get SDI solo cert, just to play safe.

But if i am cert as solo diver and I do not have a bailout tank, I will not be cover also?

 

[agilis]

Can you self-certify as a solo diver? Make your own solo c card? I think you should, since no one else is directly at risk but yourself.

Why should anyone think that the person selling solo diver c cards knows more about solo diving than someone who has been diving solo much, much longer than the certifier? And has read more books and articles, and understands the mechanics and theory of diving better, and is willing to prove it in a situation where the less competent pays all costs?

How can anyone verify the experiential credentials of whoever is that is selling solo c cards? I understand that an outside agency can't be sure if my own self-generated credentials are valid, but how can they have confidence in anyone else's?

This is especially true if the c cards are being sold for money, if there is a profit motive involved. I have yet to meet any dive shop instructor with as much experience as I and a group of other solo divers I know have. I've seen some of the solo diving certification literature and it's a cut and paste job with some good ideas, some things specific to certain places and types of diving, and some really idiotic notions.

Advanced dive training is an excellent thing, but solo diver certs are about as logical as Zombie diving certification cards. If anyone thinks I'm making up the Zombie thing, I'm not. They are sold by the same hucksters that sell solo certs. This multiple certification crap has gone too far.

 

[NAM001]

check the course requirements.
to be bold here i will say that the requirement is to have a redundant air supply. that is done by carrying a pony bottle with you. you can get around this by diving doubles so long as you can isolate the tanks if needed.

haha noted.
Think will get SDI solo cert, just to play safe.

But if i am cert as solo diver and I do not have a bailout tank, I will not be cover also?

 

[doctormike]

Can you self-certify as a solo diver? Make your own solo c card? I think you should, since no one else is directly at risk but yourself.

Why should anyone think that the person selling solo diver c cards knows more about solo diving than someone who has been diving solo much, much longer than the certifier? And has read more books and articles, and understands the mechanics and theory of diving better, and is willing to prove it in a situation where the less competent pays all costs?

How can anyone verify the experiential credentials of whoever is that is selling solo c cards?

Kind of a broad statement, don't you think? Do you feel the same way about diving certification in general? After all, how do I know that the person who "sells" me a trimix card does't know less than someone who has been diving longer, read more books, etc..

Since there are no actual laws that govern diving in the USA (just DOT regs for tanks), we have a number of certifying agencies that "sell" us cards. Hopefully, we do something to earn them beyond just paying Businesses in the dive industry (dive shops, boat captains, etc..) have agreed to accept cards from these agencies before they will engage in any transactions like filling tanks or taking someone out to a wreck. So yes, it's possible to get a worthless c-card, but I'm not sure what the alternative would be. ALso, don't think that you will find an agency that provides free training, so all cards are sold for money at some level.

FWIW, I took the SDI solo course and now my local quarry will rent me a transponder and allow me to dive solo there if I file a dive plan with their shore monitors. Pretty good deal, I think....

M

 

[TMHeimer]

A lot of opinions here, but any answers to his question about DAN coverage? I guess he could just contact DAN.
On his other question about a DM I would think whatever DAN says in general would apply here too.
A sidenote-- Some instructors have pointed out that when with an OW class they themselves are in effect diving solo. Yes and no IMO. Yes officially, because the students aren't yet certified (ei. so they "don't count"). No because there are a lot of people around with air supplies.

 

[waterpirate]

TTBOMK, Dan is a suplemental insurance in additin to your primary insurance. Itfills the gaps not covered by your primary insurance, as well as giving local ER a life line for diagnosis, and trestment if they are not diving accident savvy. The how, where, why is not of interest to them other than assisting in treatment and the ongoing compilation of data. Your life insurance carrier is the one who is going to disect your actions.
Eric

 

[cool79]

A lot of opinions here, but any answers to his question about DAN coverage? I guess he could just contact DAN.
On his other question about a DM I would think whatever DAN says in general would apply here too.
A sidenote-- Some instructors have pointed out that when with an OW class they themselves are in effect diving solo. Yes and no IMO. Yes officially, because the students aren't yet certified (ei. so they "don't count"). No because there are a lot of people around with air supplies.

When I am working as a DM, I also do solo diving to perform my task. Which I know I am covered by DAN.

But leisure solo dive - I am not sure. I had emailed DAN already. let see what they reply.

 

[eeeediver]

I disagree. I can think of dozens of non life threatening situations that a solo diver might need diving insurance for.