A sad story what are your views?

[vetdiver]

I had chemo last year and saw a fertility specialist before I started, so I know a little something about this. They can indeed freeze eggs (and even ovarian tissue), but there is not a fantastic rate of fertilization in these cases. In fact, it's pretty dismal. they basically told me that was not an option, as it simply (statistically with today's mainstream science) wouldn't work. This was at a world-class medical facility and from a renowned specialist - I bought it. Freezing the whole embryo is basically the way to go in these cases.

I feel for her, but I see the ex's point. It is a shame that young people are put into this position - hopefully, the medical field can come up with a less brutal treatment for cancer at some point in the future...who wants to be told their ovaries are kaput due to chemotherapy when they are in their 20's or 30's??

I have several young cancer survivor friends who have adopted as a result of diminished fertility - one friend just adopted a daughter from China - she's beautiful.

 

[Mako Mark]

as a father of a young princess, I think this is a very complex situation.

I would be VERY concerned about someone wanting to use my genes against my consent. I wonder if the father is concerned of the future health of the mother?

What would happen to the child if the mother were to die young?

Why should he consent to have a child with a mother that he has already broken up with, and what would the legal and moral implications of that be?

If her treatment left her without the ability to have children herself, there are options for egg donors if she had not got any harvested eggs left over when the invitro work was first done.

I find it hard to believe that any invitro work would not conserve unfertilized eggs along with the embrios.

It certainly does sound tragic, but is does raise some interesting moral and legal questions.

Obviously this particular judge decided that the embrios are not the property of the mother to dispose with as she would like. There is more to the story than that it appears.

 

[sealkie]

sorry you can`t give a woman rights over her eggs and then refuse the same rights to a man over his sperm

 

[nilsdiver]

Why should he consent to have a child with a mother that he has already broken up with, and what would the legal and moral implications of that be?

I believe if this happened in the US and she was able to use the eggs (legally or illegally) that the mother could then sue her ex for child support. The court will look at what is in the best interest of the child and not how the father got to be the father. Any lawers want to comment?

 

[Former FLL Now MSP Diver]

They actually froze fertilized embryos instead of eggs?

Why?

Frozen embryos have a better chance of becoming viable after thawing than do eggs and especially sperm. The boys don't take to the cold very well.

Marc

 

[goodknight411]

What about the baby's right to live? It would be hard to rule against that, regardless of other cirumstances.

 

[TekDiveGirl]

What about the baby's right to live? It would be hard to rule against that, regardless of other cirumstances.

Well it is not a viable baby at this point. And actually it is not even alive. It is frozen in a freezer. Embryocycle.

In my opinion it has no rights at this point. It is not a living being so how can it have any right to live or any rights at all for that matter?

Science is making a lot of issues rather sticky.

When you start "playing God" and screwing around with making lives issues are going to come up that are difficult to reconcile.

Kimber

 

[So Cal Divin]

If your so full of LOVE then adopt.

Me personally I have 2 beautiful boys, I'm Pro Choice and Agnostic. If my 40 year old wife were to get pregnant again we'd keep the baby. My only fear would be another boy. My wife and I wan't a girl too.
If we won the LOTTO we'd adopt a girl. Man that sounds bad.
Humanity can be so selfish at times.

Jeff

 

[Zoe83]

That is a hard case but i agree, if women are equal to men, they either are, or they arent. it has to be fair. it is terribly unfortunate that her reproductive status is how it is, but the man should not have had to deal with a child with his ex, that he didnt not want, let alone be responsible for. if i was her, i would adopt. if she wants to be a good loving parent she still has the chance. persnoally, i would prefer to adopt rather than have my own child, i know im young but id prefer to never go through pregnancy or child birth! but my fiance doesnt want this, he wants his own genes passed on, which i can understand. and we would not have a good case to adopt..as so cal divin said, we would need to be RICH! such is life....

 

[Snowbear]

Wow that is a tough one - but as long as women want to have control of their bodies - we have to give men control of theirs as well.

Was he in control when he "donated" the sperm?

If it was inside of her alive and viable he does not have a right to say kill it, I don't want to be a father right now. But obviously that was not the case here. They broke up and he no longer wanted to have a child with her. He should not be forced to do so - regardless of her childbirthing status.
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...but it still is not right to force a man to become a father (no matter what he IS the father biologically) if he does not want to become one.

If he did not want to become a father, why did he "donate" the sperm? What's really the difference if she had become pregnant the natural way and had the baby??

... it is terribly unfortunate that her reproductive status is how it is, but the man should not have had to deal with a child with his ex, that he didnt not want...

Again, if he did not want to be a father, why did he "donate" the sperm in the first place??

sorry you can`t give a woman rights over her eggs and then refuse the same rights to a man over his sperm

Didn't he willingly contribute the sperm, knowing it would be used to fertilize the egg(s) that would potentially become a child?

I'm not trying to be a feminist here, but I think whether it's an embryo in a petre dish, both the male and female "donors" should know there is a potential for their "contributions" to become a viable human?? I realize this is not always the case in the heat of passion, but holy guacamole - if the intention is to create a potentially viable freezable embryo, there is obviously some forethought involved??