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About to be fitted for tank/ow dives

Discussion in 'New Divers and Those Considering Diving' started by MattAO, Sep 23, 2019.

  1. rhwestfall

    rhwestfall Solo Diver

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    The challenge is if the instructor knows what to do regarding instruction in that piece of equipment. We still hear "they are for technical diving", "they will push you face forward", etc. being stated by shops that are "in the dark ages" regarding teaching. They don't know, and they don't want to know..
     
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  2. Viper12161

    Viper12161 Angel Fish

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    Good luck in your course!!
     
  3. rhwestfall

    rhwestfall Solo Diver

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    Okay then, here we go.... Not to derail this discussion, but the tendency of a back-inflate to push you forward is the result of (1) too much weight, (2) that weight in the wrong place, (3) expecting a device that is intended to assist you in horizontal trip to hold you vertical at the surface (4) using too much air to attempt to achieve said vertical orientation...

    This is what I meant by instructors not knowing what to do to help a student resolve issues...

    Now, back to the regular discussion....
     
  4. Esprise Me

    Esprise Me ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    As to your first question, it's fine and even IMO a good idea to rent for a while before you buy. But one piece of gear you might want to buy sooner rather than later is a computer. It's nice to have one display you get used to, and a record of your dives.
     
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  5. Viper12161

    Viper12161 Angel Fish

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  6. happy-diver

    happy-diver Skindiver Just feelin it ScubaBoard Sponsor

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    Nope...it's about taking the time to learn the equipment

    and then becoming proficient enough and not having to
     
  7. Tony66

    Tony66 Angel Fish

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    Aside from what most folks have mentioned, don't buy anything just yet. An opinion as a novice diver (around 100 dives) I think the jacket BDC's are easier to learn buoyancy control. Also I'm a vacation diver so if I would do it all over again My priorities would be a BDC specifically made for travel, small and light weight. I current dive with a rear inflate Zeagle Ranger and it is a little big and heavy dragging them thru airports and hotels.

    My son, around 50 dives who normally rents jack style, used my wing BDC to tag along with his girl friend when she did her open water check out dives and hated it for the most part. They are great underwater but can be horrible at the surface. They are better once you learn where to put weight and body position at the surface but they aren't perfect. In open water classes, you spend quite a bit of time working at the surface.

    No gear is perfect but you will need to decide for yourself what works best for the type of diver you become.
     
  8. KWS

    KWS ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Use teh sstuff they provide during the course adn then take time to try several alternates and buy what works best after some mentorship is involved.

    As a note there was an instructor that said part of his job instructing,,, was to push gear purchase from the host shop. You are paying for instruction not a private line to home shopping channel. buy intelligently not under pressure.
     
  9. KWS

    KWS ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    thats good advice but how many shops sell them. Shops have ties to specific manufacturers and have to sell that. They sell what clears their shelves not what works best for the student.
     
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  10. KWS

    KWS ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    You are so right on this. Many instructors will not each if you use a BPW. Excuses like it is contrary to reg retrieval and other things is often cited. or they want the same gear on all because they are required to use the same equipment you use and a snorkle. That can not be done if some are in jackets and others are in BPW so they push jackets which they by weird chance have for sale.
     

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