promocop
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what the hell happenned? Scary stuff. NN?
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I agree completely. The story doesn't add up without additional details.
At approximately 10:45 am, a female diver was observed descending the wall, which drops from a 35' reef depth to an estimated 6,000'. A dive master retained by the diver/husband attempted to stop her descent at approximately 100', and was seen pushing the DM away and continuing her descent.
I think at the next shop meeting I'm going to bring this question to the table. Whil leading a dive, to what extent should we go to rescue a diver? I'm not talking just let someone go off and do something crazy, but in this case, if I was the instructor at 170ft, what would the dive operator expect of me, what would I expect of myself and what do our customers expect from us?
I've been on boats before where they clearly tell us, if we start to swim down the wall, the DM will only be able to follow us so far/long before they have to give up for their own saftey.
Nope, I don't think the second Pro had a chance, seeing only bubbles below from 170. I've known some go deeper on 80s, but I wouldn't ask anyone to.Another thing to think about is at what point, as a DM or Instructor, do you consider your saftey above that of the certified diver you're leading? Rescue turns to Recovery very quickly and without the proper gear on site a rescue may not have been possible.
How long in to the dive did the accident take place? This is an important aspect to determine how much gas the diver in question may have had. That leads to the question, how long did it take the instructor to reach 170ft. That leads to, what is the likelyhood that the rescue had turned in to a recovery.
Yep. Or I think so. I don't think a petite would DM would wear a BD with a lot of lift, but one would hope enough to bring up a narced diver. May have to drop some lead...??I agree completely. The story doesn't add up without additional details. A divemaster should be able to release the diver, get behind them, grab the valve, inflate their own Bc, kick like hell and haul a disoriented diver from 100 (or 200) up to 50 feet or so and then make another attempt to gently convince the diver to ascend.
I used to see some dive guides use a backpack and no BC and it always scared me because I felt that they lacked the reserve bouyancy to physically haul someone up from the depths in an emergency.
Yes & No. It's good to train, think, discuss, think, plan on what ifs - but sometime you do the best you can in the instant you gotta do it, and hope it was a good play.That's a good point that was brought up recently in the other accident thread. I believe it was Thal that mentioned the value in a diver having a personal limit, decided before hand that they felt comfortable with when helping another diver. It's not a decision you want to make under stress.
But again, there has been nothing anywhere on the news? No newspaper has run anything? I find it hard to believe that neither a Bahamian news source nor any local (to where the diver was from) news sources have run anything at all on this. With only CDNN to validate.....alarms go off in my head. Further searches have returned nothing (not to say nothing exists) so I have to come back to the fact that CDNN is not a trustworthy source.