Why do so many lose interest in diving?

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I was wondering about this since I used to dive with some one who has recently stopped diving and I feel is losing interest in Scuba. I also just scored a whole set of gear at a bargain, from someone else, who is no longer interested in diving anymore.

What keeps some engaged and hooked on diving, while to others its just it seems to be just a passing phase. I can tell that there many out there that really have a passion for Scuba. Do you think you discovered or experienced something they did not?

Why do you think this is the case with some losing interest?

Frank G
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My theory is that certain training agencies rush the certification process and therefore new divers are not comfortable in the water, get frustrated if they don't immediately find a mentor then they just throw up their hands and quit. Also, many couples get certified together but one or the other is not really interested in it, then they break up and one or both quit.
 
Some who do not live close to diveable waters decided the time and expense of getting there isn't worth it or have competing interests for their time and money. How many get certified so they can visit some crystal clear, warm water vacation spot?
 
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In my personal experience, the agencies desperately try to keep the new diver totally dependent on them, rather than developing independent, thinking, capable divers. FUD. Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. I have a lot of skills that need to be developed, but I also know the extent of my slowing expanding "range".

It gets old and tired, dragging an agency and instructor along with you for every GD "mommy may I" dive you wish to do. I almost gave up too.

Tell the agency police to look for me at any lunar high tide in the Belmar Basin, or the inlets. Wee hours of the morning, two'ish. Alone. I don't log dives anymore either. I dive for me.

I still dive because it is the one thing in my life that keeps me sane. The agencies are a double edged sword, you can learn wonderful things from them or continue on to be subjugated by them.

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My theory is that certain training agencies rush the certification process and therefore new divers are not comfortable in the water, get frustrated if they don't immediately find a mentor then they just throw up their hands and quit. Also, many couples get certified together but one or the other is not really interested in it, then they break up and one or both quit.

I certainly think this is part of it, but I think it also goes deeper. Lots of people certify on holiday, where they are encouraged to do a course and warm water diving, then when they get back to reality (real life) they find it takes a lot of effort, and sometimes money, to keep up the hobby and to get to dive sites.

In my own case I dived about 35 years ago at work but had very few opportunities to dive 'socially' (living a long way from the coast or any inland sites). In my case when I retired from my main job five years ago I started doing consultancy abroad that meant I now spend two weeks a month in the middle east about 17 miles from a collection of excellent warm water sites, so I retook my qualifications and started diving 8 or 10 times a month on my weekends off. Because I am semi retired when I am back in the UK I can get to dive sites because I am not going in to work daily and can afford the time to go further afield, but even so my diving is 80% warm water abroad at weekends, and only 20% UK.

Almost all the UK divers I dive with are older, retired or semi retired, and beyond the young family, building a career and establishing themselves in life stage. Of course money is also a factor, diving in UK cold water costs a lot because it is not easy to rent diving gear here. So you need to buy a drysuit, BCD, all the gear including tanks, then pay to get to the coast, boat fees etc. I could not have afforded this when I was younger. A good second hand car would be cheaper :) and I needed the car more.

I think that holiday courses do not give people a true idea of the commitment and effort it takes to become a 'real diver' as opposed to someone who can rent gear and go on a recreational holiday dive.

I think this is also reflected as George says in the length and content of OW courses. IMHO a large number of students coming out of OW classes are not suitably qualified, trained or comfortable enough in their diving skills to go and assess a new dive site, and dive it safely on their own without more experienced assistance. So I think the training system is producing divers that are reliant on guided dives, and opportunities to dive being packaged for them until they have built up a lot more experience, and this in turn limits the opportunities for many to be able to go diving.

If they do not have easy opportunities to dive, or they are not really committed to diving, then the effort involved puts many off, and the realities of a very busy life prevent people from becoming 'divers' rather than people who occasionally dive. - Phil
 
I think as scuba enthusiasts we have already decided that this sport is awesome enough for us to continue diving well beyond our open water class so we find it hard to see it from the other perspective. The current model of minimum cost instruction allows many people to get certified who view diving as nothing more than one more item on the bucket list to be checked off, which probably contributes to the sharp fall-off in participation after open water. From a safety perspective this is probably a good thing (at least in my opinion) because I think we can all agree that diving with some regularity to keep your skills sharp is likely to be a significant contributor to safe outcomes.

While for some it may be that they give up the sport due to a change in the environment due to moving away from convenient diving, change in economic or health status, I think for others it may be that they feel like they've seen it all. Being a divemaster and dabbling in photography certainly has helped me to remain engaged with the sport, but these all incur additional expenditure in terms of equipment, training or require taking on even more risk (tech diving with increased DCI risk for example).
 
In my personal experience, the agencies desperately try to keep the new diver totally dependent on them, rather than developing independent, thinking, capable divers.

In my personal experience, that isn't at all descriptive of the situation in the Nordics and the UK. Here, diving is predominantly through non-profit clubs who offer CMAS or BSAC certifications, often with zero net income. The clubs have absolutely no interest in keeping their members dependent, rather the opposite. As the safety officer of my club, I would dearly love if all my members were independent and competent, since I'd rather dive on our outings than babysit incompetent divers. I make exactly zero euros from my diving "career". And AFAIK, a BSAC Dive Leader or BSAC Diving Officer makes just as much as I do.

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If we sidetrack into the "put another dollar in" bashing and "low quality of today's training" bitchfest, please note that there are fundamental differences as to whether you're diving at vacation destinations, or if you're a club diver at local destinations.
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I think the significant investment in both time and money required to keep skills current and continue diving is higher than many who certify realize. Diving sounds really cool, so let's try it. But then you realize that it takes more time and/or money than you have, so you find another hobby. And you Craigslist your shiny new gear with just a handful of dives on it. I've reached a stage in my life where my mortgage is manageable and my kids don't require following up 24/7, so I can afford to go diving.
 
Getting certified at a nice beach resort in your holidays is easy and relatively cheap. Coming back to western europe and diving in cold water, quarry or lake is much less so.
 
I have a friend who moved to Belize a number of years ago and though she was certified shortly after her move, she no longer dives. Despite my jaw hanging open as she shared that information with me, she reported it was dead boring to her. The truth started to come out later. Apparently, some idiots she was diving with thought it would be fun to tske her on a 170' dive. My friend won't tell me who they were. She quit immediately after that dive. So combine new diver syndrome of not really seeing much at first with idiot buddies trying to give her a dive "thrill" and what you get is someone who quits diving despite living feet from shore on Ambergris Caye. Smh

I have much younger friends that became vacation divers. They were couples that broke up or got pregnant or equally like skiing and other expensive social activities, all of which are much easier to get to in Canada than warm water diving.
I believe some of them may come back to diving in the fullness of time.

Life and money, you know.
 
From a perspective of many years in and around the business:

Diving Dropout has always been around. (I'm looking at the 97% of US/Can divers being certified anywhere away from South Florida or good access to fair diving year round)

In the 1960's thru 1972, I didn't see it much happening. LDS parking lots were filled with Joe Six Pack vehicles, a lot of pick-up trucks with tools. A lot of lake diving, an occasional trip to some exotic place like Cayman with the local gang.

In about 1975 or so, I saw the arrival of the marketing that led couples to dive together for their big Honeymoon vacation. This was the beginning of the Diver Dropout trend as dive shops began to buy tables at bridal shows with travel agents.

One big "together" experience, all the shiny equipment, the excitement of conquering and cooperating. Done, now it's time to buy a house and concentrate on perpetuation of the species.

These two above situations are the majority root cause for the invention of Craig's List. (After E-Bay failed to deliver the insane asking prices for the out-of-hydro tanks and the snorkels with the ping-pong ball in the top)

The economic realities of the world have changed, insidiously, slowly, then in a flash. In the first 1970's period, at first there was very little competition for that "equipment intensive/carbon footprint" way to piss away our disposable income.

The biggest competition for your vacation dollar came from skiing, mostly on snow but to a growing measure: water sports toys, water skiing and PWC. The girls liked it better, it was less hassle, you could plan by weather forecast for "the next day", and the girls looked better​ in their bathing suits versus wetsuits. Plain sexist fact.

There was only Pabst Blue Ribbon, everything changed.

Tennis, Motorcycles, BMW Cars, Sporting Clays Shotguns, $1000 wristwatches, Import Beer, Designer Handbags, Outlet Malls, $550 baby carriages, Private Grade Schools, Apple everything, Viagra, Cable TV, Bandwidth, flavored f'ing Vodka. Don't ge me started on Golf.

DEMA went from an alliance, always very shaky in that regard, to an annual party. We, as end user consumers see the issues in SCUBA Marketing very very differently than the poor schlepps (that is the universal language of Manufacturer's Representatives that use this and other Yiddish words to self-describe themselves). The Manufacturer's Reps are looking for a revenue stream to make their roles viable, no less so than the "need" for manufacturer's to buy space at the (local consumer) Dive Show. When the LDS finally croak out, you'll see a door open on that retail dive-show "showroom" level for the manufacturers again.

Diver Dropout comes also from the fast dwindling numbers of Local Dive Shops. They long ago lost their appeal as hang-out spots, economics hit hard, a cadre of "dive club" members might have extended the gasping for air. And speaking of AIR, when the LDS closes down, where you going to take those LIME GREEN Luxfer 80's in the dusty closet to get them filled? Ahh, screw it, they might be 12 years out of hydro, but they'll go for a bundle on Craigs List...I'll throw in the spear gun and the booties, too.

Bashing Agencies? Really? I have had creds from 4 of them. They're all selling the same hamburgers. PADI is the easiest target. They own the hamburger stand market. If someone else wants to eek out a living from the leftovers, there only remains a coupe of ways to do it. Blaming any Agency for Diver Fallout is not seeing the bigger socio-economic picture of the much-sought-after leisure dollar. An Agency must provide the infrastructure for it to stay viable economically, and the same goes for it's instructor cadre- whatever level of financial success they want/hope/can achieve... If you can't/won't afford a McDonalds franchise, maybe buy the lot down the street, away from the corner, and start making gourmet burgers. Each and every Agency is in the Capitalistic Growth Model, whether the acolytes, their subservient priesthood is so motivated, or has lessened their goals, it is an individual decision. (Note to instructor- Step #2 is training for nitrox, EAN, whatever you call it and imbue the required use of same on every dive thereby boosting your profit margins on the service end)...but I, as usual, digress.

But, nevertheless, I can not resist . McDonalds Franchise costs me huge up-front, and I have to pay the toll for every burger sold, but I'm going to sell a lot of burgers. Burger King is a cheaper buy-in, I'll sell less burgers, but the corporation hits me for a lower percentage. Hmm. Now, tell me about What-A-Burger.

Further clouding the waters of the Agency responsibility in Diver Dropout springs from the prior paragraph, but how the process appears to the adherents, students and instructors alike. Once you get past The Big 4 (NAUI, SSI, and SDI are no different than PADI) the divers and instructors that are attracted then (after and following) to more Scientology based groups? They're not leaving. Masters of DIVER RETENTION. Feel free, as most do, to fill in the blanks as to why. It is the difference between buying a Formula Race Car and adjusting it over time for competition, versus buying a Dodge Hellcat and trying to figure out how to drive it. Either automotive analogy can be applied to either group of Agencies... depends on how you squint your eyes.

The party, at least the one we knew it to be, is over.

Yet, manufacturers of dive gear still crank-out this new year's model of the Titanium shiny object. You can still buy a Remington 870 Shotgun for $239 (by industry comparison, a paltry sum), but the dive industry hardware people can't quite figure it out.
 
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