Not once, not twice but THREE times I made darn sure I stated that it's not all divers or instructors.
Are you so worked up you can't read what I wrote through the spittle on your screen?
Or do you have a comprehension problem?
Roak
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Are you so worked up you can't read what I wrote through the spittle on your screen?
Or do you have a comprehension problem?
Roak
Lets try this one more time. Ill use little words, even.
The oft repeated quote Its not the agency, its the instructor is an ADMISSION that agencies have bad instructors that you have to avoid.
My ONLY point is that at this point in time you are guaranteed to get a good instructor if you go to GUE, not so with the other agencies, as ANYONE who has uttered the statement Its not the agency, its the instructor has to agree with, because its a tautology (ok, one big word, go find a dictionary).
Roak
The oft repeated quote Its not the agency, its the instructor is an ADMISSION that agencies have bad instructors that you have to avoid.
My ONLY point is that at this point in time you are guaranteed to get a good instructor if you go to GUE, not so with the other agencies, as ANYONE who has uttered the statement Its not the agency, its the instructor has to agree with, because its a tautology (ok, one big word, go find a dictionary).
Roak
Although I pretty well agree Roak, I think you're casting the net a little widely. Alot of issues that have been answered by that statement have been with standards between agencies, teaching methods, and personalities. I don't see the only reason being a bad instructor.
And, although someone can be a very accomplished instructor, they may also be a total dufus. I don't see any agency immune to that.
MD
wb416
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pssssstttt... I think someone charged your fire extinguisher with gasoline instead of an oxygen inhibitor.... or should we change your title from "regulator" to "catalyst"?
cornfed
Mindless lemming
Well, let's see...
Up until you got involved in this thread thread it wasn't much more then here's a link to a tech 1 report. Then flw said, that's nice but GUE is so small there might not be and instructor near by but don't worry there are plenty of non-GUE people who are good instructors. To which you replied,
So yeah, I'd say you put down all other agencies. But then again, you aren't the first person to question my reading comprehension so it probably isn't that good.
Frankly I don't care if you corrected or clarified your statement two, three or four times because it doesn't change the fact you started this ball rolling. Your later statement about anti-DIR people picking fights and then whining when people like you fight back is totally unfounded.
Oh, and I'm not the one all worked up here.
Okay, Drew, have you been drooling over that Victoria's Secret computer screensaver again? Tsk, tsk!
I'm beginning to think that someone is sneaking in and sending posts to the board while Roakey is out diving. First he talks about other agencies being in the toilet, and says that other writers are "products of public education" or, as in your case, that they can't read.
Then the "real" Roakey comes back and says: "I never said any of that, and, besides, all of you are whiners anyway!"
This multiple personality stuff is hard to keep track of, isn't it?
I'm beginning to think that someone is sneaking in and sending posts to the board while Roakey is out diving. First he talks about other agencies being in the toilet, and says that other writers are "products of public education" or, as in your case, that they can't read.
Then the "real" Roakey comes back and says: "I never said any of that, and, besides, all of you are whiners anyway!"
This multiple personality stuff is hard to keep track of, isn't it?
cornfed
Mindless lemming
BigJetDriver69 once bubbled...
Okay, Drew, have you been drooling over that Victoria's Secret computer screensaver again? Tsk, tsk!
My wife has been out of town for a couple of days... (hangs head in shame)
BACK ON SUBJECT. What about GUE Tech 1? If you all want to keep on arguing about the principles of instruction then start your own G.D. thread.
Because of crap like this, the search function on this board is useless.
There is too much effort involved, to find any useful information on this board because of this ****. I have surf through 190 threads, only to find out that 90% of the post are complete bull**** and WAY off topic!
I thought someone was assigned a job to keep this from happening.
On track..
Because of crap like this, the search function on this board is useless.
There is too much effort involved, to find any useful information on this board because of this ****. I have surf through 190 threads, only to find out that 90% of the post are complete bull**** and WAY off topic!
I thought someone was assigned a job to keep this from happening.
On track..
vlada once bubbled...
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it was am amazing class, learnt a lot and i am a way better diver after it
If you want details, please PM me
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HolgerS once bubbled...
I am diving for 12 years, being an active CMAS instructor and did the DIR-Fundamentals and the Tech-1 class this year!
Amazing, I relearnt diving! My personal opinion: in comparison to all courses from all agencies I watched so far, GUE has the REAL concept teaching for Tech. Very tough but really teaching the obvious right things for diving tech safely and challengingly.
I personally have decided to go for the Tech2 class also and to adapt my own Advanced Nitrox classes to GUE Tech1 classes!
I recommend everyone pursueing REAL tech diving to go for GUE.
Safe diving
IMHO the rest of the post's are
Spectre
Contributor
Ok.. I've had enough requests to look at this thing, that I actually did.
In all honesty, I've got to agree with Roakey. No, I've not taken a GUE course... but:
How many people have heard of a DIR-F grad realizing later that their instructor wasn't all they thought they were cracked up to be at the time they took the class?
Yes, my OW instructor was great... until I learned better. My AOW instructors were great... until I learned better. My Cavern instructor was great.... I got lucky. My Adv Nitrox/Deco/mix instructor prospects looked great, then I started to figure out what I really was looking for, and went off in search of a new instructor... who, of course, is great.
Roakey's point is just being missed by everyone. He's not blanket bashing. He's pointing out that if you blindly choose an instructor from any agency, there is a chance you'll get someone that isn't any good. You might have questions you are going to ask to gauge if they are a good instructor, but how do you really know until you figure out what you _didn't_ learn in your class? You don't know what questions you need to ask until after you take the class. So you really are running on faith for any instructor you choose... because you're not going to know the questions you needed to ask until after.
chrpai
Contributor
My OW instructor was great. I didn't realize that at the time, but when I found out how crappy my AOW instructor was I did.
Now I might accept Roakey's point, if that is what he actually said. But it wasn't. He clearly stated that there wasn't any chance you'd get someone bad from GUE. Clearly different from what you are saying he said. And hence the arrogance and bashing. Hence why I said someone is changing "it's the instructor not the agency" to "its the agency not the instructor"
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