Are you a Dive Hypocrite?
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David_57
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Actually I do not agree but certainly not the main portion, how about people with eating disorders maybe we should chastise them for being overweight, sorry but I do not believe for one minute that obese people are that way because they want to be 9 out of 10 times there is a underlying cause other than eating to much food.
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drrich2
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Wish I could find the 'fat tax' article I read yesterday. In a nutshell, it brought up a politically inconvenient fact that applies to both smokers & fat people:
1.) While at a given age smokers and the obese rack up higher health costs than normal weight non-smokers, smokers & the obese don't live as long.
2.) The years of lost life come mainly during the non-productive years, when these people are drawing retirement benefits such as Social Security, Medicare and Pensions.
3.) Ergo, over the long haul, the healthy people who draw benefits much longer, and still eventually die of something before which they, too, get expensive end-of-life care, can potentially cost society more than the smokers or fat people.
4.) Think about it; the fat guy dies of a heart attack at 65. He had diabetes and 2 prior heart attacks, so there were costs. His thin friend skates along with no major medical costs during that time, but lives to 85, ultimately dies of a heart attack preceded by congestive heart failure for 5 years, and so ultimately still has substantial health & end-of-life costs, AND draws a pension, Social Security and Medicare 20 more years.
Maybe it's time we institute a 'Thin Tax' and start sticking it to you toothpicks who are costing us fatties so much money. I'm tired of supporting the normal weight moochers.
Richard.
1.) While at a given age smokers and the obese rack up higher health costs than normal weight non-smokers, smokers & the obese don't live as long.
2.) The years of lost life come mainly during the non-productive years, when these people are drawing retirement benefits such as Social Security, Medicare and Pensions.
3.) Ergo, over the long haul, the healthy people who draw benefits much longer, and still eventually die of something before which they, too, get expensive end-of-life care, can potentially cost society more than the smokers or fat people.
4.) Think about it; the fat guy dies of a heart attack at 65. He had diabetes and 2 prior heart attacks, so there were costs. His thin friend skates along with no major medical costs during that time, but lives to 85, ultimately dies of a heart attack preceded by congestive heart failure for 5 years, and so ultimately still has substantial health & end-of-life costs, AND draws a pension, Social Security and Medicare 20 more years.
Maybe it's time we institute a 'Thin Tax' and start sticking it to you toothpicks who are costing us fatties so much money. I'm tired of supporting the normal weight moochers.
Richard.
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bleeb
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More food for thought:
Diet alone not likely to lead to significant weight loss
This is only one part of a complex situation, but one interpretation is that it may be easier to gain weight by eating too much than it is to loose it afterwords by eating less.
Diet alone not likely to lead to significant weight loss
This is only one part of a complex situation, but one interpretation is that it may be easier to gain weight by eating too much than it is to loose it afterwords by eating less.
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bleeb
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Go back and read it more carefully. That's not the conclusion. It's saying even if you eat less, you probably won't loose much weight if that's all you do.
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That ain't what the study said.
Diets don't work. For people with chronic weight problems, it's much more difficult to lose weight than to gain it. And even when you lose it, it's even harder to keep it off.
Diet isn't the solution ... lifestyle changes are. Diet and exercise are the staples of that change, but it can involve much more. A lot of people eat to mask emotional issues. You won't keep the weight off without addressing those issues. That can involve medication, therapy, or just a sheer dogged determination that you WANT to change.
I agree with what you're saying that people need to take control of their lives. I don't agree with your premise that it's as simple as you make it out to be.
Ya can't solve the problem by just walking away from the cheeseburgers ...
... Bob (Grateful Diver)
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